Avalanche Beacons Market Overview and Shopping Matrix

Is it just me or is there a construction stud-sensor masquerading in that first pic?

Jonathan,
ARVA has just set up new US distribution and the products will be available in US shops early fall for the winter season. All three transceiver models will be in stock for immediate delivery along with ABS compatible packs, shovels and probes. ARVA has set up a distribution arm in the US from their headquarters in France. So we will be seeing more of their gear out there.

I worked on a ski patrol when the first tracker came out. I had gotten used to an Ortovox F2 dual frequency unit and considered it a very solid European tool. I looked at that Tracker and thought, no way am I using a beacon that looks that much like Coleco hand held basketball game. Now I still use a Tracker 1 after a handful of years and consider it the obvious choice for the price-conscious weekend warrior.

I think it’s very strange that no manufacturer has proposed a supplementary standard for “extra communication” yet. A simple thing like transmitting a Beacon ID on another frequency would allow solid silencing of the beacons you’ve already found. Add to that the possibility of an info text, and you could have a beacon on your dog without risking your life, since one of the burials show up as “Dog” and the other as “John Doe” (assuming you travel with other hitech-beacon-carrying people). And you could name yourself “Avalung John Doe” to let your rescuers search for other non-Avalunged burials first.

I’m not saying that all of the above is a good idea under all conditions, but all of it is fairly low tech. It’s nothing advanced at all. Your cell phone has been doing much trickier stuff for 20+ years at about the same size, plus you can play Snake and Angry Birds on it.

Any newsworthy updates on upcoming airbag packs for this season? Will there be a newer Float 30 for example, designed for us more than for the sledrunners?
Any other brands coming out with packs for this winter?
Thanks.

I can’t remember if this was reported here already, but Mammut, which had previously partnered with Snow Pulse, now outright owns Snow Pulse.
Back to beacons: if the beacon spec were designed from scratch today, it would look way different, and signal separation would be nearly 100% reliable. Still though, impressive what has been accomplished still using the old spec that was never intended for all this digital processing. (And even more impressive that it’s coming from relatively small companies, as opposed to major players in the consumer electronics industry.)

Paul,

BCA will have the Float 36 available this season which is geared to people who tour. Suggested retail is $785. Look for updates on the BCA web site soon.

We’re also introducing a pack called the Float 18 which is designed for folks who ski out of bounds or take the occasional cat or heli trip. It holds a shovel and probe perfectly and doesn’t need to be removed when riding lifts or sitting in a cat.

Just an FYI: if you do end up heli skiing with any of our packs, most heli companies in North America have found it suitable to simply place the Float trigger handle inside it’s zippered pouch and out of the way, rather than disconnecting the entire system.

Thanks,
Steve
(BCA)

I have always found the naming on the Pieps Freeride to be so wonderfully ironic. It must surely be one of the best examples of Freerider economics whereby the ‘cost’ of using such a poor piece of technology is borne not by the owner but by their friends and colleagues should they ever be reqred to undertake a search.

You’ll sure as he’ll not be coming on a trip with me if you’ve got one.

“I’ve didn’t prove yet, But I think the GPS feature in the Pieps Vector is a very good feature. It can not only be used as a common GPS to track down to home, but also gives you two principal advantages:
First, yo can say (by radio, telephone or such) your exact location to the rescue patrols. So you can optimice the speed of the rescue.
And second (even more important). It allows you to not pass two times over the same point when you are searching. It allows you to optimice the time on the first phases by eliminating the overlaping of searching field. So you can cover more field in less time and without repeating or overlaping areas you have already pass.”
Pablo
“I think it’s very strange that no manufacturer has proposed a supplementary standard for “extra communication” yet. A simple thing like transmitting a Beacon ID on another frequency would allow solid silencing of the beacons you’ve already found. Add to that the possibility of an info text, and you could have a beacon on your dog without risking your life, since one of the burials show up as “Dog” and the other as “John Doe” (assuming you travel with other hitech-beacon-carrying people). And you could name yourself “Avalung John Doe” to let your rescuers search for other non-Avalunged burials first.
I’m not saying that all of the above is a good idea under all conditions, but all of it is fairly low tech. It’s nothing advanced at all. Your cell phone has been doing much trickier stuff for 20+ years at about the same size, plus you can play Snake and Angry Birds on
Gustav
LouAugust 26th, 2011 6:38 am
Engineers have told me that much of the resistance to bundling multiple devices comes from the concept that safety devices should be stand-alone, so they’re more likely to be stowed away and cared for carefully rather than beat around, taken out of backpacks and dropped or lost, etc (issues of signal interference rise as well if a device has multiple radio transceivers). Also, no one can deny the economic incentive of a company such as BCA being able to be a small version of Apple by coming up with something new and at the time unique, then basing a company on it. But then, Apple lurks, and I’d imagine the iPhone could easily be made to include a personal location transceiver system that would work for an avalanche burial — or locating your child in a playground.
Things is, as folks realize that the key with avalanche survival is not to get buried in the first place (and devices are refined to prevent burial), I think you’ll see a relaxing of all the uptight stuff that goes on with avy transceivers, and they will get bundled into other devices to simplify our kit. I’d imagine we’ll indeed see a combo fully functioned GPS/transceiver sooner than later. Like the Garmin Rhino bundles a GPS and FRS radio.
Avalanche beacons have enjoyed this sort of rosy mythology for years, the instinctual assumption that they’re a real life saver in many situations. Yeah, they save lives and it would be absurd to state otherwise, BUT, the whole process of burial, find with beacon, and shovel the person out really doesn’t work all that well. So when other things (like airbag backpacks) start to work better and better, and get 100% penetration into the backcountry skiing population, watch beacons become more of a commodity item with much less emphasis on how fancy they are, and more emphasis on size, simplicity, and cost. That’s when you’ll see them bundled with flashlights and GPS units, and it will seem totally logical to do so.
Lou’s crystal ball has spoken (grin).
Lou”
Sorry to be coming in late on this. I’ve been dealing with family issues.
Now, weren’t you the guys that complained about “bells and whistles?”
GPS incorporated in transivers? One transiver “talking to another?”
How about just getting folks to practice with their transiever??? How about instead of a GPS and “talking function,” one that says “You have not practiced single or multiple searches in X amount of days?”

Jonathan,
Our mountain rescue team(WA) is looking to update our current teams beacons (we are currently using Barryvox Opto 3000).
We are currently unsure if we should go with either the Barryvox Pulse vs Element and now have members suggesting the Ortovox 3+.
We have compared the data sheets but I’m looking for further information to support a decisions.
Thanks,
Stephen

Stephen, beacon selection depends a lot on personal preferences, and this is of course even more complicated if you have a team of diverse individuals with different preferences. In this context, I think a key factor is how much training and practice your particular team is willing to devote to learning the particular details of a particular beacon model.
If you want to keep it as simple as possible for the team members who aren’t into gadgetry, then the BCA T2 would be a strong choice, as is the new ARVA Evo3+ (although its shorter range might be a concern for a SAR team not knowing the number of burials and/or PLS).
The Ortovox 3+ and Barryvox Element (as well as DSP Tour and ARVA Axis) step it up a notch in terms of features and complexity, but still stop short of the Pulse.
If your team is relatively large, then check out the separate institutional brochure I have linked near the start of my Pulse review. You can set up the Pulse options via computer and then lock them in so that individual team members can’t be messing around with them. Kind of interesting solution for a fleet that wants to take advantage of the Pulse’s many options but wants all the beacons to be set up identically.

Hi, I need to get in contact with the new Arva distributor in the USA, Can you help me out? Love your research and info. Steve

Element review is now published, with Pulse v 3.2 and Pieps DSP Tour (i.e., less-expensive single-button version of the DSP) coming up soon, followed by ARVA models (Evo 3+, Axis, Link).
Ortovox has mainly behind-the-scenes firmware upgrades to the 3+ and S1+ (with the “+” for the S1 signifying the gain of the transmission shifting ability of its sibling 3+), along with a major price drop on the Patroller Digital, so no new reviews to be published there.
And what about BCA? In keeping with their keep-it-simple approach, nothing new there. But I did appreciate the T2’s ease-of-use on two recent occasions:
– First was running tests for initial signal acquisition. This entailed manipulating TransmitSearch switches something like 150 times. And with very numb fingers toward the end. The ergonomics of the T2’s switch were even more appreciated at that point!
– Second was teaching at my avy course when a student complained that somehow his new T2 wasn’t working properly at the close-proximity dual-burial practice station. So I grabbed his beacon and found the first target within several seconds or so. Hmm, now to find the second target (while keeping the first target on). When was the last time I practiced a multi w/o a mark/mask feature? Well, I’ll just plead the fifth on that, but it all came back to me immediately and off I went. Probably about 10 or 15 seconds longer than with a mark/mask feature. Does it take practice and skill? Yes, but it’s a good skill to practice. And would the time differential increase significantly for a third target? Yes, but a close-proximity three-victim burial is likely to end up rather badly regardless.

The ability to shift the transmission among two different antennas is indeed impressive technology. But even if the table were to be expanded to include many beacon features beyond number of searching antennas and multiple-burial features, that transmission shift still wouldn’t be included. As I explained previously in my 3+ review, the feature can enhance initial signal acquisition if and only if the beacon’s long axis is vertically oriented and the beacon’s short axis is pointing toward searcher. Take away either of those conditions, and the feature isn’t helping at all. It’s still a potentially useful feature, and reveals some impressive innovating thinking at Ortovox, but pretty low down on a list of features that I would include in a more comprehensive chart. (Ditto for W-Link from Barryvox & ARVA.)

Well, I failed to remove the batteries from my Pieps this summer, and just discovered it is dead! So I’m back on the market for a new beacon. I like the Pieps, with their range and seemingly faster response time while searching compared to other beacons I’ve tried.

Have you had a chance to review the new Pieps DSP Pro beacon? They’ve updated the design this year and I’d be interested to hear your thoughts!

Thank you!

and while I’m asking, are you planning on reviewing the Pieps DSP Sport and Pro? Thanks again for all the great info on the site.

Lou (or Lou2),

Again, another tremendous resource in the archives of WS? It looks like several of the manufacturers have launched new or updated beacons in the seven years since this was published, most notably BCA with the Tracker 3. I believe this is the most recent version of this article, any plans to update it?

I believe I am going to bite the bullet and purchase my own beacon. As most of my touring in avalanche terrain requires a flight, I have typically rented equipment from my guide or a local shop. However, I think it is time that I buy my own that I can practice with in the offseason.

Based upon your table, relative price points, and what is offered in various packages I believe I am going to go with the Ortovox 3+. However, the BCA Tracker 3 looks interesting as well.

Also, maybe if you do update this, you could get your friends at Cripple Creek to do a WS bundle that your could link to with your favorite shovel and probe as well? (Backcountry does not offer either the Ortovox 3+ or Tracker 3 in a bundle.) I may be the only one that clicks through, or maybe there are others like me.

As always, thank you.

Lou,

Thank you. It looks like the meat and potatoes are there as you have done write ups of the Tracker 3, and Mammut offerings.