The backcountry is always telling us a story, says Silverton Avalanche School Deputy Director Michael Ackerman. Here, he shares that story with students.
Michael Ackerman and Josh Jespersen of Silverton Avalanche School
There’s a reason Silverton Avalanche School Deputy Director Michael Ackerman has been called a celebrated story teller. We could also add to his qualifications connoisseur of metaphors. He uses both story and metaphor liberally in the latest Totally Deep podcast, where he’s joined by host Doug Stenclik and Silverton Avalanche School Tactical Programmer and Instructor Josh Jespersen. Together, the trio dives deep into the murky waters of avalanche education.
Take this one from Ackerman: “If we try to break the backcountry down into a systemic checklist that equals go or no go, you’re playing a dangerous game. Mother nature is always going to bat last and she’s fond of hitting a walk off in the 9th inning when you think you have it all locked up. That’s when we see accidents happen.”
If you find banter about logistics boring, you won’t in this episode. If you think the acronym AIARE is synonymous with all avalanche education, this episode will gently correct you. If you’ve signed up for an avalanche course thinking that the instructors and curriculum will give you all the answers, this episode will make you think otherwise. It is, for all intents and purposes, likely the most interesting and informative discussion on avalanche education you’ll ever encounter.
This is thanks in part to the plentiful metaphors, but also the deep well of knowledge behind the microphones. Ackerman has been working as a guide and outdoor educator the in mountain west for the past two decades. Jespersen is a former Navy SEAL who in 2017 snowboarded all of Colorado’s Fourteeners in less than five months and also works as a guide and outdoor educator. They are both deeply involved in Silverton Avalanche School, which has been running backcountry education courses since 1962. Operating out of the ‘natural avalanche laboratory’ of Silverton, CO, SAS offers a wide range of courses in the categories of recreational, professional and motorized avalanche education, from backcountry foundations and basic avalanche awareness to Professional Level 2 and Avalanche Search and Rescue.
Ackman at home in Colorado.
Throughout the episode, the guys cover topics including the shortcomings of avalanche education, how to reach the new class of COVID-inspired backcountry users (“selling them gear is like selling them a firearm. Now we need some firearm safety”), and why avy training on or near your home turf is especially valuable. Have a listen, and stay safe out there.
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4 comments
This is a great conversation, thoroughly enjoying it. Please come back to this topic throughout the season!
Interesting stuff, but first to split all of the 14ers was Jarrett Luttrell back in 2010 and second was Marc Barella in 2014.
Thanks for the correction, Rob. Josh was the first to descend them all in less than 5 months. Corrected in the text.
I got lost from time to time in the jargon and the intricacies of the world of avy ed, but I resonated with Ack’s generous regard for all who seek the wild.
I heartily agree that knowing your home region is a really good idea. Local knowledge of the terrain and the snowpack history can’t be beat. And weather! Last season I learned to stay home when the wind is gusting 60mph or so. Nearly got killed by an ensemble of large dead trees that blew over in unison, landing where I was a few seconds before.