Skialper Magazine — Ski Bindings Testing — Edited Translation


Post by WildSnow.com blogger | November 18, 2016      

Note from Lou: Upon perusal of the 2017 Skialper Buyer Guide, I realized their testing of binding release values was both difficult to understand, and alarming. Fact is, researchers such as Skialper are finding that tech bindings can produce some rather whacked out results when placed on a machine that measures release-retention values (“DIN” settings). I asked Skialper editor Davide Marta if I could take a stab at making a clarified edit of his English language pages regarding this situation. The full digtital desktop flipbook publication is available at http://mulatero.it/buyers-guide-2017-apertura/ — for smartphone & tablet download the free app iOS and Android and go in the ‘English’ tab to buy the English version.

If you have not seen the magazine, where this all comes from is a series of bar charts that compare tested binding values to those indicated by the printed scale on the binding housings. Some bindings were remarkably close, while many were, again, whacked.

The magazine, where this all comes from is a series of bar charts (excerpted above) that compare tested binding values to those indicated by the printed scale on the binding housings. Some bindings were remarkably close, while many were whacked. Full length green bar means the binding matched up well, then it gets worse from there with shorter bars trending to red. The bars express a percentile. For example, if the bar goes to 10 the binding settings were quite accurate, while a bar at number 8 means the settings were 20% off from what the machine calculates as optimal, and so on down to the left end of the chart. (The bar chart release direction terminology is confusing. “Front” is lateral-side release, while “Heelpiece” is upward-vertical release.)

Skialper Magazine Buyer Guide, binding testing and safety information pages 338 339.

Skialper Magazine Buyer Guide, binding testing and safety information pages 338–339.

THESE ARE NOT SAFETY BINDINGS
words by Davide Marta, English translation edited by Lou Dawson

In the last (2016) edition of the Buyer’s Guide, we introduced evaluations of the side (lateral) and upward (vertical) release of ski touring bindings. This was an important development, in that it was — and still is — the only such test published at an international level. Our results were wildly popular and subject to much discussion among core backcountry skiers.

This year we did the same testing. Thanks to the Italian Wintersteiger branch, we were lent the Drivetronic machinery to test all 32 “2017” bindings we selected. (Note: We only selected and tested frameless “tech” bindings using the boot toe and heel fitting system invented by Fritz Barthel, and we use the terms “tech” or “pin” interchangeably to indicate such bindings.)

Important foreword: The pin tech binding situation remains the same. In most cases, manufacturers do not have an entirely relevant DIN/ISO standard they can refer to, nor good answers for customers asking how the binding they are about to buy will fare in case of accident or a fall. Amid all this, some skiers are fine with the situation; they figure their bindings simply do not have terrific release-retention characteristics and enjoy the gains in efficiency as a tradeoff. Other skiers may assume, wrongly, that their tech bindings are performing at the same safety and retention level as alpine bindings.

In other words, most of these products can not be correctly termed as “safety” or “release” bindings. Exceptions are Dynafit Radical 2.0, Dynafit Beast 14, Marker Kingpin (We did not test Vipec due to legal issues in Italy), which are the only models having received TÜV certification to DIN/ISO standard 13994. That being said, we make no assertion that TÜV certification always indicates a superior binding, we simply mean that the terms “safety” and “release” are only appropriate when the binding has had some form of standardized testing using established industry norms.

(For bindings without TÜV certification, confusion arises because in the case of non-certified bindings, manufacturers imply that the numbers printed on their bindings still correspond to industry norms. While some makers do attempt their own testing and calibration to make this so, that’s not always the case and as a consumer you have no way of easily knowing for certain. Our tests are intended to help with this, by showing just how close the “release” scale printed on the binding matches industry norms.)

Our agenda here is not to draw a conclusion about ski touring binding safety. Instead, we simply desire to show the state of play as it emerged from our tests, consistently executed with the same professional machinery used by many ski shops.

Let’s make an in-depth analysis of what the Wintersteiger Drivetronic is for: According to current DIN/ISO norms, it allows the input of skier data (boot shell length, weight, height, technical level and type of activity on the snow) to obtain a “Z value,” which according to the DIN norm is the number you adjust the binding to for optimal performance in retention as well as safety in case of a fall. To use the Drivetronic, the technician first adjusts the ski binding to the recommended Z value using the scale printed on the binding housing. The ski with binding is then mounted in the machine, which applies force to the binding, then ejects a printed receipt comparing actual binding performance to the Z value calculated from the skier data.

(This process may sound too rigid, but factors defining the Z value include an adjustable “Skier Level” setting with 4 levels that ostensibly compensates for more energetic “expert” skiing. For those of you who have never calculated a Z value, this DIN settings app seems to work. It calculates the setting used by Skialper to be about 6.5, based on the parameters Skialper shared at the end of this post.)

In alpine skiing, where regulations are more precise, in some countries the receipt printed by Drivetronic acts as a warranty: in case of accident or injury with the bindings adjusted following the criteria set by the machine, the manufacturer can be held responsible (what’s more, the warranty of some companies is only valid if the binding has been checked before use). If the binding adjustments have been even slightly modified, with regards to what the machine indicated, the skier is then fully responsible of his or her actions. The receipt given by Drivetronic is printed, signed by the client and then attached to rented or purchased binding. This can be a big deal.

The Drivetronic has “ski touring” as one of the choices in the control settings (according to the ISO 13992:2006 norm), so we tested all our reviewed ski touring bindings with the machine set that way. Once we inserted data relating to size, weight, foot size and technical ability, we obtained our Z value and tested the upward and side release. The machine answers “Good” if the force applied to release the boot corresponds to (or is very close to) the Z value. It responds “In use” if the force varies within an acceptable range (with a tolerance of about 20%).

If the Drivetronic force required for release deviates more than about 20% (up or down), the machine does not print a receipt. In the case of a customer, you would attempt to adjust the binding until the machine showed acceptable results. In our case, when a receipt was not printed we read the Nm (Newton meter) torque value from the machine display and used it to build our bar charts (histograms).

The bar charts here in the Buyer’s Guide simply show how much the actual tested values vary from what the binding is set to according to the scale printed on the binding. This is incredibly important. For example, if you think “I ski with my current bindings set on 8, so I’ll set my new bindings on 8,” our tests indicate doing so with some bindings may result in settings that are substantially different than what you may assume. This can work both ways, either making the binding overly resistant to “safety” release — or more prone to accidental release.

There is more. If a pin (tech) touring binding is released, not only does spring loading of the binding parts play a part, but all other flex in the system influences things as well. Touring boots play a role, with soft plastic compared to alpine boots. Flexing of the ski topsheet plays a part, as does the structure of the ski itself. Such variations can make comparative testing quite difficult.

Thus, we mounted all our test binding on hardwood planks of the same length. We then used boots from the main manufacturers on the market (Dynafit, La Sportiva, Scarpa, Scott, Salomon, Atomic, K2, Fischer, Dalbello, Arc’Teryx), with and without the various types of Dynafit boot fittings (Quick Step-in, Master Step, and original).

At the end of our tests we had hundreds of Drivetronic results. As mentioned above, we then built our charts using the data from the Drivetronic. The results were at times astonishing: We often obtained very different values on the right or left upward release. Sometimes, a boot with Quick Step-in fittings resulted in values substantially different than those we obtained with other fittings. Some of the fixed release (non adjustable) bindings were surprisingly consistent, though of course only appropriate if the fixed values are those you desire.

(Remember also that our results are from limited combinations of bindings, types of fittings, and boot models. Going beyond that would be a mammoth job — and perhaps not show anything more than what we already have.)

What is the take away? Everything and nothing. First, the bar charts do not necessarily indicate a binding works well or poorly, in most cases they only indicate whether a binding might possibly require more or less care in how the retention-release values are set. Clearly, the lesson is you should be very careful in how you assume a ski touring binding is performing in terms of retention and release, and have bindings tested if at all possible.

Moreover, when you mount a pin tech binding, you should not think that you are buying a “safety” binding (apart from a few possible exceptions). Consumers need to be aware of this; when they’re shopping they deserve to be informed by the retailer. Pin tech bindings should be chosen for performance, lightness and practicality — not assumed to be “safety” bindings in the sense that alpine bindings are. The next step is up to the binding manufacturers. Whoever crafts an efficient touring binding, which guarantees release values in case of fall, avalanche, or accident, albeit ensuring against accidental release, will be the winner of the gold rush.

The binding analysis was carried out setting the Wintersteiger Drivetronic software with the following criteria. Again, note that if a binding tested out of gamut and the machine did not supply a receipt, we got our data from the machine’s display.

– Sole 305 mm
– Skier weight 67/78 kg
– Height 167/178 cm
– Technical level 2/4
– Age 20/50 (no junior)

See our review of the 2017 Skialper Buyer’s Guide.



IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE VIEWING SITE, TRY WHITELISTING IN YOUR ADBLOCKER, OTHERWISE PLEASE CONTACT US USING MENU ABOVE, OR FACEBOOK.

Please Enjoy A Few Suggested WildSnow Posts


Comments

8 Responses to “Skialper Magazine — Ski Bindings Testing — Edited Translation”

  1. Dan November 18th, 2016 3:02 pm

    Great clarification Davide. Your central point is the important one – choosing a tech binding means compromising release safety for efficiency and uphill performance.

    Maybe one day that will change, but for many of us the pin bindings of now have been perfectly fine (I use the ATK Raider series, and have been impressed with their performance).

    Binding release is just another factor that differentiates the BC from resorts – get informed, slowly progress your challenges as your skills increase, and make choices that suit your style, ethics and abilities.

  2. See November 18th, 2016 7:18 pm

    I was out trying to get some preseason exercise today, and it occurred to me that the rotating toe (Radical 2 and Beast) probably increases release consistency by delaying toe pin cam out until the boot heel has mostly separated from the binding. I’m guessing that the skialper test results indicate (among other things) that the force required to twist the boot toe out of the toe piece can be highly variable. Heel piece rotation resistance is probably a lot more consistent.

  3. Jim Pace November 18th, 2016 9:00 pm

    Thanks for the translation of the translation. I tried to read and make sense of the original, and with two graduate courses in stats behind me, I still had difficulty. I finally realized that green bars with a score of ten meant that when the binding said “8”, for instance, the actual release value was close to 8. But the variability of most of the bindings blew my mind. I was hoping to see results for my binders, Dynafit vertical 2.0, but they weren’t included.

  4. Lou Dawson 2 November 19th, 2016 6:19 am

    Hi Jim, YES, the bar chart simply states how close the “DIN” indicator scale printed on the binding matches reality (arrived at by measuring actual release-retention tension using the Wintersteiger). It’s confusing, because of all the numbers being kicked around. It would have been better if they’d kept the bar charts but somehow designed them without the “0, 5, 10” numbers at the bottom, which are easily confused as a “DIN” setting when they are actually more like a percentage.

    The takeaway, as you allude to, is the “variability.” Meaning any person who expects to get optimal unlocked release and retention performance from a tech binding needs to test their bindings in some way. Ideally, they should be bench tested by hand for overall correct function, then user carpet tested as well as machine test. In my opinion an experienced user who has some bench skills can skip the machine testing, and just go with hand/visual checks on the bench and some carpet testing, along with actually using the binding cautiously at first to verify retention.

    Good skiers who rarely fall do often ski locked tech bindings with good success, IMHO because the chances of their being injured due to accidental release are much higher than chances of injury due to fall. Although you can throw that equation out the window if you’re talking avalanche safety, since a locked binding in an avalanche is going to hurt you no matter what.

  5. Lou Dawson 2 November 19th, 2016 7:39 am

    See, the bindings with rotating toe (Rad 2, Beast) did show good results, but so do a number of other bindings without rotating toe. I do feel the rotating toe could be a very good feature in that it does eliminate the weirdness of having the ball-socket joint at the toe being part of the release mechanicals (for example, coming partially disengaged when the binding is moving during shock absorption), but it adds complexity, weight, and is impossible to tour with unlocked. Endless tradeoffs in this, that’s for sure… Lou

  6. Tom Gos November 19th, 2016 8:45 am

    I think our natural inclination is to look at these charts and compare one binding model to another. What would be really interesting to see is results from 10 pairs of the same model. We don’t know if there is just as much variability between individual bindings of the same model as there is between models. While this data is revealing and intriguing, for me it raises more questions than it answers. Nonetheless, this is a valuable effort on the part of Skialper.

  7. Bruno Schull November 19th, 2016 12:57 pm

    I think this data shows three important kinds of variability. 1) The variability between the release values the binding is adjusted to, and the actual force required to open the bindings, 2) the variability between the release values for Dynafit and non-Dynafit inserts, and 3) the variability between the left and right sides of the same binding. I find the latter variability perhaps the most surprising; theoretically, if everything is well designed and constructed, I would expect the left and right sides to behave the same, but that’s not always the case. If I had to guess, I would say that this is a case where very small differences, such as tiny ridges of metal, fine changes in angle, and so on, produce large changes in release values–it’s a sensitive system. All of this just confirms what Skialper and Wildsnow and others have said over and over; pin bindings are not alpine bindings. Nonetheless, the consistency of the Radical 2.0, for the second year in a row, inspires some confidence…

  8. Lou Dawson 2 November 19th, 2016 5:00 pm

    Tom, what would be alarming is to test different boots, combined with various states of wear on both bindings and boots. Take my word for it, we’d all be running scared from that one!

    Reality: Just as Skialper alludes to, most (if not all) tech bindings are NOT safety bindings. Sure, they’re better than having your foot bolted to the ski, but…

    HOWEVER, the future is bright. For example, perhaps the new Fritschi Vipec adds vertical elasticity to the heel unit? And, there is Trab TR2, if you want something that really does perform rather remarkably in both lateral and vertical modes.

    Lou





Anti-Spam Quiz:

While you can subscribe to comment notification by checking the box above, you must leave a brief comment to do so, which records your email and requires you to use our anti-spam challange. If you don't like leaving substantive comments that's fine, just leave a simple comment that says something like "thanks, subscribed" with a made-up name. Check the comment subscription checkbox BEFORE you submit. NOTE: BY SUBSCRIBING TO COMMENTS YOU GIVE US PERMISSION TO STORE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS INDEFINITLY. YOU MAY REQUEST REMOVAL AND WE WILL REMOVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS WITHIN 72 HOURS. To request removal of personal information, please contact us using the comment link in our site menu.
If you need an emoticon for a comment just copy/paste off the following list, or use text code you might be familiar with.

:D    :-)    :(    :lol:    :x    :P    :oops:    :cry:    :evil:    :twisted:    :roll:    :wink:    :!:    :?:    :idea:    :arrow:   
  
Due to comment spam we moderate most comments. Please do not submit your comment twice -- it will appear shortly after approval. Comments with one or more links in the text may be held in moderation, for spam prevention. If you'd like to publish a photo in a comment, contact us. Guidelines: Be civil, no personal attacks, avoid vulgarity and profanity.

  Your Comments


  Recent Posts




Facebook Twitter Email Instagram Youtube

WildSnow Twitter Feed



 



  • Blogroll & Links


  • Welcome to Louis (Lou) Dawson's backcountry skiing information & opinion website. Lou's passion for the past 50 years has been alpinism, climbing, mountaineering and skiing -- along with all manner of outdoor recreation. He has authored numerous books and articles about ski touring and is well known as the first person to ski down all 54 of Colorado's 14,000-foot peaks, otherwise known as the Fourteeners! Books and free ski touring news and information here.

    All material on this website is copyrighted, the name WildSnow is trademarked, permission required for reproduction (electronic or otherwise) and display on other websites. PLEASE SEE OUR COPYRIGHT and TRADEMARK INFORMATION.

    We include "affiliate sales" links with most of our blog posts. This means we receive a percentage of a sale if you click over from our site (at no cost to you). None of our affiliate commission links are direct relationships with specific gear companies or shopping carts, instead we remain removed by using a third party who manages all our affiliate sales and relationships. We also sell display "banner" advertising, in this case our relationships are closer to the companies who advertise, but our display advertising income is carefully separated financially and editorially from our blog content, over which we always maintain 100% editorial control -- we make this clear during every advertising deal we work out. Please also notice we do the occasional "sponsored" post, these are under similar financial arrangements as our banner advertising, only the banner or other type of reference to a company are included in the blog post, simply to show they provided financial support to WildSnow.com and provide them with advertising in return. Unlike most other "sponsored content" you find on the internet, our sponsored posts are entirely under our editorial control and created by WildSnow specific writers.See our full disclosures here.

    Backcountry skiing is dangerous. You may be killed or severely injured if you do any form of ski mountaineering, skimo randonnee and randonnée skiing. The information and news on this website is intended only as general information. Due to human error and passing time, the information, text and images contained within this website may be inaccurate, false, or out-of-date. By using, reading or viewing the information provided on this website, you agree to absolve the owners of Wild Snow as well as content contributors of any liability for injuries or losses incurred while using such information. Furthermore, you agree to use any of this website's information, maps, photos, or binding mounting instructions templates at your own risk, and waive Wild Snow owners and contributors of liability for use of said items for ski touring or any other use.

    Switch To Mobile Version