Dynafit Superlite 2 Ski Touring Binding — Unboxing


Post by WildSnow.com blogger | August 31, 2015      

Is it Christmas, or just a rainy August day here in the old Colorado mining town? I heard a bump on the porch. Could have been Santa dropping off a lump of coal left behind by the miners. Or, have I been a good enough by to avoid Santa tossing lumps of carbon at our door? Turns out, yeah, life is ok (Lisa, your comments?). Box from Germany with the full-on retail version of Dynafit Superlite 2.0 — The Green Mo’chine. Added bonus, a brand spanking new pair of retail version Radical 2.0 30 year golden eagles. Had to show those, to prove it really is Christmas.

Green Machine in all its lack of mass.

Green Machine in all its lack of mass. Dynafit Superlite 2 backcountry ski touring binding has removable brake.

In the elegant white boxes. That's my little friend Radical 2.0 30 year commemorative gold to left.

In the elegant white boxes. That’s my little friend Radical 2.0 30 year commemorative gold to left.

The brake appears exceedingly excellent. Only works to 80 mm but easily modified and we suspect Dynafit will release at least one other brake size if they sell many of these bindings.

The on-off push button brake appears exceedingly excellent. The one pictured here only works to about 80 mm but easily modified and we suspect Dynafit will release at least one other size brake size for this winter if they sell many of these things. Their catalog for 2015-2016 shows brake sizes 75mm, 90mm, 105mm, so perhaps all widths will be available sooner than later. After all, isn’t it Christmas already?

Aha, you say, but what about that pesky heel-flat-on-ski mode that North American skiers seem to need much more than German binding designers? The way to compare: normalize by measuring distance of boot heel above ski while in flat resting mode compared to toe pin height (this doesn’t translate to any particular angle, it’s just a basis for comparison).

Dynafit Speed Radical shows 25 mm toe fittings height vs 13 heel, a difference of negative (heel dropped) 12 mm, resulting in a pleasantly neutral heel-flat mode. That’s a pretty normal heel-flat mode for a tech binding.

Dynafit Superlite 2.0: With heel unit spun around and flip lifter stowed so your boot heel is resting on binding housing (lowest Dynafit approved mode), Superlite 2.0 measures 29 mm toe height vs 31 heel, a difference of positive 2 mm in heel height.

In other words, Superlite brings you up off the flat mode by posting you about 14 mm higher at the heel than Speed Radical. It does NOT provide a heel-flat-on-ski mode.

What’s that in real life?

As you can see, the lower recommended heel lift configuration for Superlite 2 is decidedly not neutral.

As you can see above, the lower recommended climbing heel lift configuration for Superlite 2 is decidedly not neutral. Nonetheless, it is noticeably lower than the “medium” angle on something such as a Speed Radical, so unless you’re on flat ground it’ll be totally adequate and might even be a nice angle for moderate terrain. Sort of an ‘in between’ compared to totally flat and what we normally consider to be ‘medium’ height.

Question of the hour, will Superlite 2 work without any heel lift whatsoever?

Question of the hour, will Superlite 2 work without any heel lift whatsoever?

Stats from the retail version of this super interesting binding:

Total weight with screws, no brake, no crampon mount: 196 grams.
Heel weight, no screws: 100 grams.
Toe weight, no screws: 80 grams.
Brake, 80 mm max ski width: 80 grams.

Difference between toe and heel height in downhill mode, measured to center of binding pins: 7 mm, which is 5 mm less ramp/delta than classic TLT and 7 mm less than Speed Radical. Numbers aside, the ramp-delta of Superlight 2 is noticeably reduced in comparison to many other tech bindings.

Note that forward (upward) release on this binding is fixed by a U-shaped spring that is not adjustable. It is said to be around release value of 9. Side release IS ADJUSTABLE, numbers printed on binding show 6 to 12. In Europe last winter I got the impression they were going to make a lighter “women’s” spring available but I’ve not seen a SKU for that. It may not be imported or perhaps they decided not to sell it in U.S. That’ll be easy to find out about in coming weeks.

The binding appears to have a high lift, but when the flipper is in that position it doesn't end up under the boot heel.

The binding appears to have a high lift, but when the flipper is in that position it doesn’t end up under the boot heel.

Superlite high lift is similar to medium lift of Dynafit Radical.

Superlite high lift is similar to medium lift of Dynafit Radical. Nearly every skin track in Europe is set at these angles, but skin tracks can be quite steep in certain regions. If you need higher lift you know who you are. Thing is, the Superlite lifter looks incredibly easy to mod for more lift.



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78 Responses to “Dynafit Superlite 2 Ski Touring Binding — Unboxing”

  1. jbo August 31st, 2015 4:36 pm

    Hi Lou, Dynafit confirmed orders on 75mm, 90mm, and 105mm brakes. In fact the 105s where available first. Still trying to figure out the limitations on flat (negative) mode…heel too close to the boot? Doesn’t work with the brakes?

  2. justin August 31st, 2015 4:49 pm

    “With heel unit spun around backwards, and flip lifters both stowed so your boot heel is resting on binding housing”. Both flip lifters? Doesnt it just have one? I thought boot heel was either on the binding housing or on the green flip lifter (it looks to me like the flip thing is all one piece, but I could be wrong). How does the high rise position compare to radicals?

  3. Lou Dawson 2 August 31st, 2015 5:17 pm

    Well, it has one per binding, that makes two (grin).

    I’ll do a high rise comparo this evening, but that like asking what kind of 2-inch receiver hitch you can weld on a Prius.

    Lou

  4. Lou Dawson 2 August 31st, 2015 5:20 pm

    JBO, heel probably hits binding housing when ski bends, with heel flat on ski, or else the binding gets spun around at the worse times… but there might be some mods, etc. At the least folks who like lower heel lifts could simply take a few mm off their boot sole heel.

    In any case, let’s see what all you guys get to stock widths in brakes before we tell folks what’s for sure in terms of inventory.

  5. Lou Dawson 2 August 31st, 2015 5:49 pm

    Justin, I just checked and the Superlite 2 has no high rise. It has two riser positions in the instructions and checks out that way on the bench. In low mode your heel is on the binding housing, then you flip the lifter forward to a medium lift that’s slightly lower than Radical, but would be virtually the same as a Radical with a few millimeter aftermarket toe riser on the Radical (remember that the less ramp-delta a binding has, the less effective heel lifters are).

    At first glance, it appears that the Superlite heel riser can flip reverse from medium rise to a high rise, but it doesn’t reach far enough forward. It’s actually a little strange because it’s got the exactly correct angle when in the higher position, but the boot heel just falls in front of it. I’d think I’m missing something but since the instructions don’t show a high lift I think I’m correct. Perhaps the engineers made a monumental boobo as it looks like it would be easy to make it work as a high lifter. Or perhaps they discovered the high lift put too much leverage on the binding, as might have happened with Radical 1st gen. I got some photos am posting them up. Lou

  6. Lou Dawson 2 August 31st, 2015 5:58 pm

    Anyone having trouble viewing images in our blog posts? I made some changes on the server this morning, got a report from someone who said they were having trouble. Lou

  7. swissiphic August 31st, 2015 6:29 pm

    hmmmmm; looking at the pics of boot heel atop the ‘standard’ high rise setting and then again the ‘almost’ high rise…a hunk of plastic or alum affixed to the ‘face’ of the high rise flipper that protrudes above the level of the top surface when deployed (if that makes any sense?) could kill two birds with one stone…effectively jacking up the ‘standard’ high rise position and also providing a platform for the boot to rest on when deployed in the ‘almost’ high rise position…if, again, that makes any sense?

  8. Lou Dawson 2 August 31st, 2015 6:47 pm

    Time to cut up some HDPE and get out the new Irwin tap/die set I got for the new mod shop!

  9. Terrance August 31st, 2015 9:35 pm

    Having video errors using mac w/safari, scroll bar moves into viewing of image.

  10. Nick D August 31st, 2015 10:38 pm

    I have Safari 5.1.10 and viewing of photos and scrolling is working correctly.

    Back to the binding, I presume the crampon attachment is an extra accessory one would need to mount to ski, correct? While I prefer moderate skin tracks, many in my local PNW areas like skinning to be a blood sport. I find that those firm spring condition mornings require a steep track to keep some of the skin gripping the snow otherwise you are just on edges. Perhaps B&D will have an adaptor for the high heels by spring 2016. A lighter release setting is preferred as well as the option for some different boot lengths. So it looks like either Speed Radical or the trusty Speed Turn for my next set. The lighter weight is so tempting though.

  11. Pablo September 1st, 2015 1:44 am

    Flat mode will be posible without brakes instaled as there is some tolerance between heel and binding housing.

    Problem is, with brakes installed, they will not be retaineid if housing is just half turned

  12. Mike September 1st, 2015 7:16 am

    Am I seeing what looks like a 4-hole pattern for the heel? What’s the pattern like re: conflicts with the current 3-hole Speed SL?

  13. Lou Dawson 2 September 1st, 2015 8:31 am

    Hi Mike, yes it’s a 4-hole pattern,

    front 2 holes are 35 mm L/R on center,

    rear 2 holes are 29 mm L/R on center

    front/back, holes are 28 mm apart on center

  14. Lou Dawson 2 September 1st, 2015 8:38 am

    Pablo, I tend to disagree, true that the boot heel will drop in front of the binding housing if attempt is made to use a flat mode by rotating heel out of the way, but as far as I can tell there is only a few mm of space so the slightest ski flex will result in the heel binding. I hope I’m wrong. Will do a mount soon and find out for sure. Enclosed instructions in the box do NOT indicate this as a mode, if that’s any clue. Lou

  15. Pablo September 1st, 2015 10:27 am

    Hi Lou,
    Maybe is as you described. But I think it´s only a issue if the skier is heavy weighted or the ski has a very soft flex as it occurs sometimes also with other models as TLT Speed Turn.

    I didn’t measured yet but I don’t think the “gap” is much shorter than the ones with TLT Speed Turn.

    IMO, Dynafit don’t indicate this as a flat mode in the instructions because it’s incompatible with the use of brakes.

  16. Jim Milstein September 1st, 2015 2:47 pm

    In photo comparing Superlite with heel lifted against Radical with first lift under heel, the Superlite looks quite a lot lower. Is that due to perspective, Lou?

    I’m looking forward to seeing how much the RV is dialed back in the women’s version. Might work for me. This could be a good pick for the LS Svelte ski.

  17. SteveR September 1st, 2015 3:44 pm

    ‘Difference between toe and heel height in downhill mode, center of binding pins: 7 mm, which is 8 mm less ramp/delta than classic TLT and fully 11 mm less than Radical!’

    That sounds wrong to me?

    TLT : 12.2mm – 8mm = 4.2mm
    Radical : 15mm -11mm = 4mm

    So where does the 7 mm fit in? Is there actually a 4 mm difference between toe and heel height on the Superlite 2.0? Or is there less ramp difference than you describe between the Superlite and the other Dynafit bindings?

    It’s late in Europe, so it might be me who has got it wrong…

  18. TimZ September 1st, 2015 3:53 pm

    Pablo, I have experienced too short a gap for flat on heel mode with race bindings. Note, I am a very light weight skier, yet I flexed my skis enough on whoop di doos from snowmobiles that it bound up very reliably. I didn’t think it would be an issue until that situation(very tight radius dips) which can cause any ski to flex a fair bit.

  19. Lou Dawson 2 September 2nd, 2015 9:58 am

    I mounted the Superlite 2, heel gap when attempting heel-flat mode by rotating binding heel is a paltry 3 mm, by comparison a Dynafit TLT or Radical is more around 7 mm and even in that case if you’re bending the ski your heel will catch on occasion. What is more, the Superlite 2 heel unit has not detent in the sideways position you’d need to keep it in for heel-flat. Thus, as a stock unit my conclusion is you’ve got no heel-flat mode.

    Best way to mitigate in my opinion would be to knock a few mm off heel of boot so it sat lower in the lowest mode (which is pretty low), then add a custom lifter block to the binding for your favorite lift angle.

  20. Lou Dawson 2 September 2nd, 2015 10:26 am

    Steve R, thanks so much for your attention, indeed my spreadsheet was slightly messed up due to dragging and dropping a cell that used the wrong cell in the simple subtraction formula. All fixed now. I should have just used a calculator (grin).

    Should read something like:
    Difference between toe and heel height in downhill mode, measured to center of binding pins: 7 mm, which is 5 mm less ramp/delta than classic TLT and 7 mm less than Speed Radical. Numbers aside, the ramp/delta of Superlight 2 is noticeably reduced in comparison to many other tech bindings.

  21. Wookie September 7th, 2015 1:38 am

    I put a pair of the old superlights on a lightweight rig a couple of years ago, and I liked them so much – they’ve become my standard binding on all my skis. I’ve detailed my feelings on release values and all that on other posts – but I thought I’d chime in on the heel-lifter issue.
    I used to always be in the highest setting on my radicals, my marker tours, etc. and I often wished I had more. I personally don’t have much need for full flat – but I did go that way when the terrain called for it – and I was concerned when I switched to the superlights that I would miss both the high setting and the flat. (the old superlight had pretty much the same set-up)
    Long story short: I have never missed either. The combination of a really light binding with good efficiency AND a true touring boot like the TLT6 with a great range of motion seem to make all the lifter stuff moot. I put mine on the flattest setting and only put the (low) riser on if a group of 19-year old masochists are setting trail – and I am completely comfortable. I was never so on my radicals, in heavier boots.
    Yes – I am oldish – and I set low euro-skinners when I have the option – and I wear tight pants…..but if you’re on the fence about these, I’d encourage almost anybody to try them.

  22. Mish September 7th, 2015 2:50 am

    “Hi Mike, yes it’s a 4-hole pattern,
    front 2 holes are 35 mm L/R on center,
    rear 2 holes are 29 mm L/R on center
    front/back, holes are 28 mm apart on centre”

    Lou, do you think this would fit on the Volkl BMT ?

    https://www.wildsnow.com/12762/volkl-bmt-mounting-pattern-strong-enough/

    or the VTA88 lite?

    Thx!

  23. Matt N September 7th, 2015 1:32 pm

    Hi Lou – are those Radical 2.0s your first encounter w/ the retail version? Perhaps I missed something, but it’s been quiet on the testing front for those bindings since Dynafit delayed the release.
    When will Wildsnow be dropping field-testing knowledge on these guys?

  24. Lou Dawson 2 September 7th, 2015 5:52 pm

    Hi Matt, I skied the Radical 2.0 pre-retail quite a bit last winter, enough to test them for the type of ski touring I do. I’ve now got a couple pair of the retail version for evaluation. What would you like to know? Pretty sure I did some reviewing, I’ll look for the links. Lou

  25. Lou Dawson 2 September 7th, 2015 5:57 pm

    Mish, I have to say I wouldn’t advise it. Lots of other ski choices out there that don’t require dancing around a funny shaped binding reinforcement pattern. If you want something for Volkl, consider ION, that’s a nice pairing. Lou

  26. Drew Tabke September 8th, 2015 12:16 pm

    Ditch the lateral DIN, ditch the brakes, ditch the suggestion that “flat” isn’t approved (what?)… Seems like an amazing product tripping over its own feet in pursuit of arbitrary safety certs.

  27. Bruce Goodlad September 23rd, 2015 5:07 am

    Hi Lou Thanks for all the info, great stuff as usual.

    This is a question for those with less geek, I currently I use TLT radicals ST with TLT 6 boots I was thinking of putting a pair of the Superlite 2.0 on a pair of Dynastar Mythics for this season. Without getting the tape measure out when skiinning will the Superlite feel much different. Currently I tend not use much heel riser if any as I find that when setting a skin track if I use my risers the track is to steep for my clients. Thanks for the advice and sorry as I’m sure the info is in your post. All the best Bruce
    PS snow to 1600m in the alps last night

  28. Lou Dawson 2 September 23rd, 2015 5:17 am

    Hi Bruce, could indeed be a good “guide” binding. I don’t think it’ll feel much different, other than the lowest heel position not being as low as the Radical ST. I’ve seen quite a few guides who set such low angled skin tracks they tend to even use the lowest heel position while they’re setting the track, due to needs of inexperienced or unfit clients who have to have such low angled tracks. If you set those kinds of tracks, you at low lift with clients at medium lift, you might need to experiment with how the lift angles of the Superlite feel.

  29. Gavin November 3rd, 2015 9:32 pm

    So what’s the deal with crampon compatibility? Do the widgets for attaching them come with the bindings or are they an after market added extra? Thanks!

  30. Lou Dawson 2 November 4th, 2015 6:44 am

    Hi Gavin, the widgets come with the bindings. Lou

  31. Bill B November 4th, 2015 8:40 am

    Here are some measurements comparing the superlite to the speed radical
    Heel pin height is about 8mm less than the speed radical while toe is close to the same.
    Lifter height , 1st lifter is 20mm lower, 2nd lifter is 24mm lower.
    This makes the high heel lift position almost 1″ lower than the speed radical.
    BTW the speed radical is about 4mm less than previous models.

  32. Lou Dawson 2 November 4th, 2015 8:52 am

    Thanks Bill, I’ll make sure my chart jibes with that, if not I’ll double check.

    https://www.wildsnow.com/10733/get-up-rise-up-stand-up-for-your-ramp/

  33. Daniel November 13th, 2015 11:53 pm

    I want to chime in on that heel riser up’n’down. Sure, the most comfortable heel hight depends a lot on the steepness of the skin track, but I want to throw another variable into the equation, and that is cuff rotation of your boot and your resulting stride.
    I’ve noticed when I switched form my old Scarpa Matrix to the Dynafit TLT 5s that my stride had become much longer (or I went from shuffle to stride) and, what I perceive as more effective (wether that is the result of the weight saving can be discussed). I’ve also noticed that I’ve spent more time on the medium height of my TLT Speed and Vertical ST on skin tracks of various steepness than on the flat and the highest position, simply because I found that position most comfortable with the wide range of motion of the TLT 5 boot provides.
    Anyone has a similar experience, or wants to comment?

  34. Greg Louie November 14th, 2015 9:30 am

    Thanks for the data, Bill B, and thanks for filling that specialty equipment niche! How about some higher release value heel pins for Radical heels?

    @Daniel: I hardly changed my heel height from the mid position at all when I had the TLT5, the metatarsal flex zone in the ball of the foot compensated for changes in slope angle very effectively (didn’t really bother me for skiing, either).

  35. Greg Louie November 14th, 2015 9:36 am

    PS Range of cuff motion in the TLT5 is a quantum improvement over the Matrix; that is probably what’s allowing you a better stride. The TLT5 was the first ski boot I could safely drive a manual shift car with as well.

  36. Tom November 14th, 2015 11:16 pm

    Lou,
    New to the speed superlites. What is the method for adjusting the lateral release DIN?

  37. Lou Dawson 2 November 15th, 2015 7:38 am

    Superlight 2.0 lateral (side) release adjustment is the star drive screw on the rear. Lou

  38. Tom November 15th, 2015 1:17 pm

    Lou,

    Thanks. Also, just had the Speed Superlites mounted by a local shop and the rear heel piece on one of the skis is not straight. It has about a 5-7 degree slope to one direction that causes the middle rubber part of the sole to hit the pins when locking in the heel. What is the tolerate of this kind of error. Obviously, I am not happy with their work.

  39. Greg Louie November 15th, 2015 1:39 pm

    Tom, nobody cares as much about your skis as you. That’s why Lou published the template.

  40. Tom November 15th, 2015 1:57 pm

    Greg,
    Fair enough. I haven’t had this issue in the past and was just wondering about the safety/pre-release issue.

  41. Lou Dawson 2 November 15th, 2015 4:01 pm

    It can be a pre-release issue as it pre-loads the heel. It’s so easy to get it straight, and it should be straight, I’d guess the tolerance to be a millimeter or so.

    It can also damage the binding if you have to stomp down hard to get in.

    Take ’em back to the shop. Common mistake, caused by the jig moving or the drill wobbling.

    Lou

  42. Wookie November 16th, 2015 1:43 am

    Daniel – I’ve experienced the same. I made the switch to TLTs some time ago – and a side effect was that I quit fiddling with my risers. I leave them on the lowest setting starting from the trailhead – and I found that once I got the top, I hadn’t changed them.
    If I ride on heavier gear, even on the same skis and binding set ups – I use the risers much more, and spend a lot of time in the top position.
    As a result – my binding choices have become smaller and lighter – I use a superlight everywhere, but I could easily use a low-tech race with no real riser….but these don’t have the same release capability at the heel.

  43. TomTuriano November 18th, 2015 7:48 pm

    hi Lou, thanks for the rundown on the Superlite 2.0. The deal breaker for me is whether or not there is a flat touring mode. Your question of the hour was: “Will Superlite 2 work without any heel lift whatsoever?” Were you ever able to answer that question? From your picture of the heelpiece rotated 90, it appears that it would work. I wouldn’t be using the brakes. Thanks, Tom

  44. Peter Chapman November 21st, 2015 11:29 am

    Lou, What are the two small plastic pieces that come in the box with the screws and crampon attachments.? Have not been able to figure it out. Thanks.

  45. Christian November 24th, 2015 1:32 pm

    I’m wondering about the two black plastic pieces as well. I found that they fit at the front of the toe piece. So, they can be used to lift the front of the toe about 1 mm. But I’m not sure what the point of that is? Should they be used or not?
    Christian

  46. Doug Gormley December 8th, 2015 8:35 pm

    Just got the Superlight 2.0 and I am ready to mount but just like the last two posts I have no idea what those two small plastic pieces are for, any idea????

  47. Peter Chapman December 8th, 2015 10:28 pm

    As far as I can tell , they keep ice fron forming under the toe area, and perhaps keep the ski from getting an abrasion from repeated use. German ( Dynafit) uber engineering. Ich wies nicht?

  48. Mish December 9th, 2015 12:31 am

    I m now using the superlite with a boot that has the beast power insert fitted which gives a little more room between heel and heelpiece and certainly worked in flat mode when rotated 90 degrees. It won’t hold the brakes retracted in that position though.

  49. Andreas December 16th, 2015 12:50 pm

    Anybody know if the crampon mounting points should be included?? Mine came without….

    Cheers

  50. Eric Rentschler January 25th, 2016 10:18 am

    I’m curious about the two black things that people are commenting about here. I don’t believe that my bindings came with them.

    Might someone be able to post a picture of them perhaps?

  51. John Baldwin January 27th, 2016 10:14 pm

    I have been using the Superlite 2.0 bindings for the last several weeks and really like them so far. I ordered the womens model from Europe which has a vertical release of 7 instead of the 9 for the mens binding.
    -Haven’t felt any problem with the lack of flat mode as the binding delta is quite a bit flatter than Radical etc.
    -The extra riser could be 1cm higher (maybe a mod?)
    -The one thing I noticed which no one seems to have mentioned is that the flatter delta between the front and rear pins (about 10mm less than my Vertical STs) means that the first setting of the forward lean on my TLT 6 boots is too upright. Its been bothering my knees and I have had to change the boot lean to 18deg instead of 15. I don’t like a pronounced lean – I had to modify my original TLT5s that were fixed at 18 as this was too much lean when used with Vertical bindings. But the Superlite 2.0s effectively soak up over 2deg of the lean.
    -Has anybody else found the same thing?

  52. John Baldwin February 3rd, 2016 5:29 pm

    Just tried touring with the flat mode pictured above. Turning the heel at 90 degrees seems to work just fine. No issues. Good for lakes etc.

  53. Truax February 3rd, 2016 5:54 pm

    @John Baldwin

    Regarding forward lean – yes I’ve also had to crank up my forward lean on multiple boots from a variety of lower delta bindings. Plum Race, Speed Superlite 1.0, and even toe riser’d Radicals/Turns. After adjusting the boot lean forward, I’ve found this to be pretty much solved. Also surprised that no one has mentioned this with all of the talk about lower delta. Maybe not everyone has an issue, but I sure did.

  54. Snaffelhound February 21st, 2016 1:22 am

    Any modifications in the works to lower the upward release properties in that u shaped spring?

  55. Lou Dawson 2 February 21st, 2016 8:34 am

    Snaffel, are not various U springs now available? I assumed they were…

  56. Snaffelhound February 21st, 2016 9:56 am

    i will check with Salewa NA and see if they can help.
    Thanks Lou!

  57. Snaffelhound February 22nd, 2016 8:14 pm

    Hi Lou, I just got a reply from Salewa NA, and they informed that they will not be importing any of the lower din u springs. Unfortunate cause I doubt most of the user types for these binding are looking for a high din. Also unfortunate that the lower din women’s binding is only available in Europe?!
    So the u spring is rated to 12, but set somewhere in the 9 range?
    Bill B says you can easily modify the u spring with a dremmel and some patience. I was hoping you would be up for a Wild Snow mod session and some pictures too help us along 🙂
    Super excited to give this binding a spin and install the new B&D adjustable heel plate they are offering to accommodate different boots.
    Thanks

  58. John Baldwin February 26th, 2016 10:13 am

    Snaffelhound, the women’s model with a lower DIN can easily be mail ordered from Europe. I think the vertical release is something like DIN 7.

  59. Snaffelhound February 26th, 2016 11:10 am

    Thanks John, I wish I would have waited, and ordered one from Europe, but I could not resist when I found a set on sale here, and I thought u springs would be available. Sounds like you have used these bindings some, are you still pretty pleased with them?
    Really enjoying you new book by the way, beautiful!!

  60. Snaffelhound February 26th, 2016 11:42 am

    …….also John, would you hesitate at all, using these bindings on extended trips?
    I have a couple trips planned this Spring, Valhalla’s and Wapta. Wondering if you have any concerns about there reliability for such things? My experience with the Superlite 1.0 has been very positive.

  61. John Baldwin February 26th, 2016 1:46 pm

    So far I think the bindings are great. They are a joy to use :). They seem well made and I will be taking them on some long trips. As you say the Superlite 1.0 has a great track record (which has the same toepiece). I know several people that have put a lot of miles on those and love them. The 2.0 are new this year so that is always something to be a bit cautious about. Maybe Lou or someone else has a better feel for whether there have been any issues with the 2.0. Unlike the Radical the low rise position of the heel rests on the binding housing and seems pretty bombproof.

    I also have the brakes which are surprisingly strong for how light they are. Its nice to be able to use them only when you want them. They are very easy to put on but are somewhat fiddly to remove (maybe I’ll get better at it).

  62. chris mccrum March 6th, 2016 6:27 pm

    Just got a pair of the 2.0 Superlights… I’ve been on Speed radicals for quite a few pairs of skis with no complaints–I seem to have lucked out with getting the versions with the better screws, and metal top caps. Also, don’t use heel risers much at all, so I think this really helps reduce the lateral stress on the heel piece. I have seen quite a few of the older radical heel pieces grenade though. A shame, as it is a good binding in my oppinion.

    I’m a little concerned about the low delta, so will be adding a 5 mm riser to the heel piece, that will require some longer screws. That will of course put the “no rise” heel position up even more too.

    More to follow on that, I’ll keep you all posted.

    CHeers

  63. Lou Dawson 2 March 6th, 2016 6:48 pm

    Sounds good Chris, I like the Speed Radical as well once they’re upgraded. Lou

  64. chris mccrum March 6th, 2016 6:54 pm

    It’s a bit of an experiment regardless, they are going on a pair of Lotus 120’s, and I’m a fairly tall (6’2″ 190 lbs) somewhat aggressive skier… no issues with breaking radicals so far though, so curious if I can shed a bit more weight and still keep the bindings in one piece.

  65. chris mccrum March 8th, 2016 10:08 pm

    Well, Mount successfully done. Thanks for the Paper template, Lou. I have gotten a lot of mileage out of the other Dynafit template you put up years ago, plus now this one. Decided to make a proper jig with the help of your template. I used 3/16″x4″ aluminum flat bar, milled in the guide holes for various bindings in my BSL… it was dead easy to make, and alot more accurate for duplications. Plus no more measuring to get the binding spacing just right for BSL.
    Also made some 6 mm (1/4″ aluminum flat stock) spacers to give the Superlights a similar ramp angle to the Radicals. It will result in a bit more heel rise climbing, but I’ll take that for a good descending geometry. OK well, maybe I’ll regret it… how did that go, 85% time going up… 10% transitioning… 5% down. But the candy is so good.
    I’ll keep you up to speed on how it works after a trial over the next two weeks in the Selkirks. Not sure, can I attach a picture into a comment? if anyone’s interested in making spacers…

  66. Lou Dawson 2 March 9th, 2016 7:27 am

    Excellent, Chris! Just email photos to the contact option in menu above. Can’t open up the comment threads to anonymous photo installs due to spam attacks, while keeping it open for non-registered posting. Lou

  67. AdamKehoe March 9th, 2016 10:54 pm

    Howdy, I’m thinking about purchasing the superlight 2.0s to mount on my Volkl Nanuq’s at 96mm. Would you go with the 90mm brake width and bend it out or the 105mm brake?
    I appreciate your comments!

  68. See March 9th, 2016 11:26 pm

    I don’t have experience with those particular brakes or skis. And I have never tried to make a brake narrower. But what occurs to me is: Which size is cheaper/more available? How good are you with tools? Bending brakes is actually not that easy, imo.

  69. Wookie March 10th, 2016 3:18 am

    buy the wider brake. No fuss – no muss. the extra width will not be a problem and bending brakes is tougher than it looks and can impair the function if its not done right.
    Plus – since bindings like these last forever – the wider brakes will be more generally useful.

    Better – lose the brakes. use straps. They’re superlights!

  70. Brad Fowler March 14th, 2016 4:30 pm

    Lou and others, do you think the superlite brake could be moded to be used to be used to add a brake to the reliable speed turn?

  71. Lou Dawson 2 March 14th, 2016 4:55 pm

    Brad, it wouldn’t be easy, a better option is the latest Plum brake, which can easily be divorced from the binding heel unit, it’s quite nice, am surprised it’s not promoted more by them, although since the French generally don’t use ski brakes, perhaps it’s understandable (just kidding there boys…). Lou

  72. GMD March 23rd, 2016 1:52 pm

    Hey folks. Been using these on a pair of Blizzard ZeroG 108 and it is a fantastic combo. Wondering about mounting onto a 118mm Freeride ski. Has anyone had issues with the binding on a bigger burlier ski?

  73. Justin March 23rd, 2016 3:51 pm

    I know Dynafit doesn’t advertise these as having a flat touring mode, but it seems like numerous people have stated they can use their’s in the “unofficial” flat mode. Just wondering how many people have found that the flat mode works for them. I imagine it just depends on the exact mounting position of the heel piece compared to your boot.

  74. Lou Dawson 2 March 23rd, 2016 3:57 pm

    Hi Justin, I had mixed results. If the binding gets bumped and rotated around, pretty startling and can even cause a fall if you’re tired, with a heavy pack, striding along and all the sudden you get locked in… really, there are plenty of other lightweight bindings available that go totally flat, if that’s what you need. We like this binding but try to use it withing its parameters. Lou

  75. Mike April 11th, 2016 9:12 am

    Been using these for a couple of months. Mostly great, but two issues – would be nice to know how to address:

    1. Rotation: yes, these babies auto-rotate into downhill mode while climbing. It didn’t happen until we transitioned to spring conditions here on the coast, and skin tracks got off-cambered on firm or icy base. Torquing your ankles over to keep the skins on the now causes the boots to skew to the side just enough that the heel finally rotates and bam, your heel is locked (mostly happens with the riser up). Usually in the middle of a steep, icy, sketchy session. I saw mention of a B&D anti-rotation plate in your Dremel post, but it sounded like it is still in beta.

    2. Pins: one of the press pins that the riser hinges around and that keeps the U-spring in works its way out on its own while skinning. I can move it in and out with a finger. Losing it sounds pretty catastrophic since the U-spring would pop out, i assume. any tips to fix it in there? (epoxy doesn’t work since the spring moves every time you push your boot in)

    Any help would be appreciated. Otherwise, they are awesome. Light. Brakes work. Haven’t pre-released, and I am a big guy. Don’t notice the lack of a flat mode at all.

  76. Lou Dawson 2 April 11th, 2016 9:34 am

    Mike, B&D sent me some anti-rotation stops for the Superlite 2, they seem to work fine though remember to glue them on as the instructions indicate. I’ll try to get them detailed. Got side tracked on his cool adjustment plate (grin).

    The pin sounds way too damaged/defective/loose for a DIY repair, I’d suggest warranty right away, The pin, however, does have surfaces that don’t move, that are inside plastic bore hole, so it could work to use some epoxy, problem is the epoxy won’t really stick to the plastic, but it will bond a bit and also do a “displacement bond” in that it’ll at least make the pin fit tighter. Again, that clearly sounds like a defect, unless you removed the pin yourself to do mods, then replaced, which technically voids warranty.

    See this link for all our Superlite 2 coverage:

    https://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry-skiing-search/?cx=partner-pub-8093284038752434%3Ayxtlw7-4zut&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=superlite&sa=SiteSearch

    Lou

  77. Mike April 11th, 2016 4:53 pm

    Thanks, Lou! I never touched the pin, so good to know i should get the unit replaced before disaster strikes.

    i will have to check the B&D rotation solution when your side-track is tracked out.

  78. Manan January 12th, 2018 8:15 pm

    I started touring in Spring in CA a couple of years back and I have skied the Dynafit Radical ST 2.0 bindings. I wanted to know about the difference that I would feel while skiing down if I switch to Superlight 2.0. This question is mainly about skiability as I have not been on any race style bindings before.

    One more question and this might have been answered earlier on this forum: are these bindings enough to drive wider skis – something like Wailer 106 or Black Crows Corvus Freebird? I am 6ft, 185lb.

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