Eagle Takes Flight — Fritschi First Look

Post by WildSnow.com blogger | March 30, 2009      
Fritschi Eagle

Fritschi Eagle

While mostly an iteration in Fritschi’s Diamir model line, the new Fritschi Eagle departs in several significant ways. Mainly, a relocated touring pivot provides much needed ergonomics (i.e., no more Fritschi Frankestride), and a wider binding support foot under the boot heel yields enhanced stability. Weight remains similar yet somewhat lighter (35.5 ounces per binding, Freeride is 36 ounces), stack height is the same, heel unit looks and performs as with previous models, and ramp angle stays identical. In all, we’d call this an excellent improvement to what’s easily the best step-in step-out touring binding line on the market.

Fritschi Eagle

Fritschi Eagle backcountry skiing binding.

Fritschi Eagle backcountry skiing binding.

Check out the new pivot location, fully 23 mm behind boot toe!

Backcountry Skiing

Fritschi Freeride touring pivot lines up with end of boot toe, resulting in less than ideal stride ergonomics.

Fritschi Eagle has the excellent anti-insta-tele feature that Fritschi came up with a few years ago.

Fritschi Eagle has the excellent 'anti-insta-tele' feature that Fritschi came up with a few years ago.

Backcountry Skiing

Eagle support foot under boot heel is 6 centimeters wide, a full centimeter more than earlier Fritschi bindings. While not much of a contributor to static rigidity as measured on the bench, a wider platform definitely makes flexy plate bindings feel less like skiing in boots full of jello.

Backcountry skiing bindings.

Any Fritschi binding is susceptible to damage from a 'knee fall' in touring mode, meaning you take a nose dive that drives your knee towards the ski tip and pivots the binding up to its limit, where the screws rip or worse. Eagle mitigates this problem by mounting the toe on a track that moves back if a knee fall stresses the binding. This system still has a limit, but your knee will probably hit the ski before the binding gets damaged (ouch).

Backcountry Skiing

Boot clicked in, showing stack height, delta, and the pivot that's located even farther to the rear than the Dynafit socket in our pair of Radiums! (Note that Scarpa sets their tech fittings 4 mm back from most others, so when used with Dynafits, Scarpa boots will be closer to this optimal pivot location.) Rear stack is 43 mm, front is 39mm (both same as Freeride). If you need about 4mm more ramp angle (delta), it appears the front plastic plate could be removed, provided you left the sheet steel ski topskin protector and were willing to accept the possibility of less protection from knee-fall damage.

Testing this binding didn’t yield any surprises. Performance is similar to earlier Diamirs, and the better pivot definitely makes a difference in comfort and efficiency. So far, thumbs up. But remember this is only a first look.

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82 Responses to “Eagle Takes Flight — Fritschi First Look”

  1. Pete Sowar March 30th, 2009 7:39 am

    Can you explain the benefits of the pivot being further back. It seems with a hard boot it shouldn’t really matter where the pivot is. The whole system is going to move anyway.

    Also, it looks like that guy only goes to 10. Will the production go to 12, or do we have to wait another year for the Free Eagle?

  2. Jordan March 30th, 2009 7:49 am

    I had the same question about the din setting myself. Though I am loving the FT 12’s lately.

  3. El Jefe March 30th, 2009 7:50 am


    anything change on those Kilowatts?

  4. Ken March 30th, 2009 8:07 am

    Correction on 4th picture….

    “Fritschi Eagle has the excellent ‘anti-insta-tele’ feature that NAXO came up with a few years ago.”

    Not exactly the same, but first.

  5. Lou March 30th, 2009 8:10 am

    Ken, hmm, yeah, Naxo came up with the idea but did it by adding a locking mechanism. Fritschi’s solution is quite different. But sure, we can give Naxo the award for bringing a solution to market first. I’ll let what I wrote stand, as Fritschi did come up with their own anti-insta-tele feature…, and I said nothing about who was first…

  6. Frank Konsella March 30th, 2009 8:45 am

    A few nice little changes there, I guess.

    Are they working on anything else, like a “tech” binding, or are they sticking with what they know and do well? Because I would love to see some more players in the “tech” game besides dynafit and G3 (and maybe skitrab some day).

  7. Scott March 30th, 2009 8:54 am


    Did Fritschi do anything to improve the elasticity of the release?

    I’ve been skiing BD Verdicts with Freerides inbounds on soft days. I’ve been having problems with one binding (always the left foot– may or may not always be the same ski) ejecting me when landing mid sized jumps. I think it is usually or always the forward release. I haven’t figured out whether its my landing technique, the DIN setting, a problem with the binding, or snow on my boot sole. I don’t have the same problem with a similar DIN setting on my alpine skis. Any ideas what is wrong?

  8. Lou March 30th, 2009 12:08 pm

    Scott, nothing wrong, AT bindings other than the Markers (Duke/Baron) are all a compromise. They are not alpine bindings.

  9. Lou March 30th, 2009 1:32 pm

    Frank, I’ve asked over and over again if Fritschi was doing something Tech compatible. No clear answer. If it’s coming I’m not surprised it’s slow out the chute, as there is a national pride issue involved.

  10. ScottP March 30th, 2009 1:34 pm


    Any idea where this is going to fit into Fritschi’s product line? I assume they’re eventually going to phase out the Freeride and Explore and bring in a couple versions of this, but in the near future is this going to be their flagship with the others in there? Any idea on the price point?

  11. Lou March 30th, 2009 2:20 pm

    Funny you should ask that Frank. When I finished writing the post I thought, we’ll, perhaps we should find out what else they’ll be selling! Here you go:

    Fritschi line will be the Freeride, Eagle and Explore.

    MSRP for Eagle is $419.95

  12. Samo March 30th, 2009 4:09 pm

    Nice to see so much progress: G3’s Onyx, Eagle and hope Trabs TR-1. Too bad that Fritschi didn’t put higher din in Eagle. It must be better torsion torque at wider plates and pushed back pivot.
    I damaged inner right dynafit toe hole on my boot Axon meanwhile i spent 20 days on FT12’s alpine and touring. Actually upper hole shell is twisted and it could be seen clear small lines. Seem it was to much torsional pressure on the hole. Dealer already sent the boots to Garmont and i hope they will be repalced. But now i curious if this could happen again. Do you have any experience about this problem? Thank you for your halp.
    Best regards!

  13. dug March 30th, 2009 3:51 pm

    “Any Fritschi binding is susceptible to damage from a ‘knee fall’ in touring mode, meaning you take a nose dive that drives your knee towards the ski tip and pivots the binding up to its limit, where the screws rip or worse.”

    wow, it’s like you were there. half hour up flagstaff above alta, frozen skin track, i took a knee fall, and the binding just ripped off the ski. lonely boot out as my companions headed for upper days.

    black diamond replaced the binding no questions asked.

  14. drew March 30th, 2009 4:35 pm

    Great first look Lou! Can’t wait to hear about those skis that the Eagles are mounted on…

  15. Nick March 30th, 2009 6:27 pm

    Scott, could there be a difference between your boots that is causing the left sided releases? Perhaps the sole wear is different on the two boots?

  16. Njord March 30th, 2009 6:34 pm

    Aarrggghhhh! I wish they would have “fixed” the ramp angle issue…

  17. Lou March 31st, 2009 5:17 am

    Njord, it appears that to increase ramp they’d have to raise the foot even higher off the ski, that’s probably whey they have not done so. At least there is some positive Delta in the Fritschis now, remember the days when it was neutral, or even negative!? As it is, the Fritschi delta can be tuned for and gotten used to, but if you’re switching from a binding with more the feeling can be quite disconcerting. I was testing them with our Garmont Radiums, which have less delta/lean anyway. Switching from ZZero/Dynafit ST/FT to Radiums/Fritschi was a bit much! But after a run or two I was getting used to it.

  18. Mac March 31st, 2009 6:05 am

    Lou how about the hole paterns? If you want to switch from a current model Freeride to the new Eagle for the better piviot are the mounting holes the same?

  19. Lou March 31st, 2009 9:30 am

    Not sure Mac, they look the same but for/aft position might suffer in a swap.

  20. Wes Morrison April 1st, 2009 7:28 am

    Really glad they did not “fix” the ramp angle. There are tons of people out there who need less delta. Many AT boots have way to much internal ramp, especially in the smaller sizes. And of course, any binding ramp is increased in smaller bindings and boots. Make it as neutral as possible, it’s easy to add, and much harder to take it away. This is related to why some of us like 2 forward lean settings in out boots; if there is only one, it’s often too forward.

  21. Tracie April 2nd, 2009 7:57 am

    It’s nit-picky, but did they find a way to dampen the clackity-clack while touring? Even the Markers are quieter than the Freerides. I didn’t realize how loud it was until I started Dynafitting this year. I went out with a couple of friends with Freerides recently and we couldn’t even have a conversation over the clacking!

  22. John Gloor April 2nd, 2009 12:51 pm

    Tracie, I agree with you. I recently converted to Dynafit, and I ask my Fritschi equipped friends if they are going to make that noise all the way to the top. I wonder if a piece of rubber could be glued to the steps on the heel lifters to quiet them down.

  23. Dale Persing April 2nd, 2009 2:15 pm

    Lou (or others, while Lou’s frolicking overseas),

    Looking to swap out my Fritschi Freerides for Dynafits (likely Comforts or Classics) on a pair of Crossbows. Any way to tell (like finding a template that I can match up) whether the current holes will allow appropriate mounting of the new bindings? I’d rather not have a shop pull the old binding and then say ‘no joy’ and have to remount the Freerides.


  24. Lou April 2nd, 2009 2:16 pm

    Dale, a good tech will be able to mount the bindings, shift a few mm back if need be.

  25. Lou April 2nd, 2009 2:17 pm

    Still clacking as far as I could tell…

  26. Dale Persing April 2nd, 2009 2:23 pm

    Danke, Lou (aren’t you supposed to be skiing somewhere?).

  27. Chris Lane April 2nd, 2009 8:41 pm

    Regarding John Gloor’s comments about noisy Fritschi bindings…I agree with him; I’m not sure i can ski with people in Dynafit bindings because they are so quite it’s painful. The silence is a constant interruption to my clamorous clanking. 🙂
    Joking aside, I look forward to getting some Dynafits.

  28. Lou April 2nd, 2009 8:42 pm

    Heading up to the Silvretta in a few hours. Takes a while to get from Colorado to here/there!

  29. Lou April 2nd, 2009 9:33 pm

    Here in Austria, you can hear the clacking from from all the way over there in Switzerland! I’d always wondered what that sound was, thought it was a rare bird or something. Now I know (grin).

  30. Geof April 2nd, 2009 10:53 pm

    Perhaps the lower din is a result of too many people cranking down on the higher settings and breaking toe pieces. With the lower setting, DIN becomes a real deal not an ego booster. IDK just a thought. Looks like a winner. And, with NAXO out of the picture (for now anyway) Fritschi can run with it!!

  31. Jason Mitchell April 6th, 2009 2:38 pm

    Just minor tweaks, but all excellent progress. I’m guessing that the pivot location will make a difference in stride, but we’ll just have to see on the snow. Thanks for the advanced look!

  32. Elliott Piggott April 15th, 2009 2:31 pm

    Just got some and have done some day tours from Chamonix. Very impressive. To answer a couple of questions they do need a new jig for mounting. The toe box seems to be lower profile than the FR+ but otherwise the stack works in the same way. The weight saving comes from having less depth in the base plates despite the pivot position. I am told that the FR+ will be phased out in a couple of years. o idea about DIN plans.

  33. Lou April 15th, 2009 2:37 pm

    Thanks Elliott, good info on hole pattern, but the Freerides I have here have the same front/rear stack height as the Eagle. Perhaps different Freeride model years are slightly different. Mainly, thing to realize is this binding is not going to give you any noticeable change in stack or delta, only saves a bit of weight, but has a VERY nice stride ergonomic.

  34. Colin October 9th, 2009 3:53 pm

    My Eagles didn’t come with a jig and I can’t find one on the web. Anyone know where to get one?

  35. Lou October 9th, 2009 4:36 pm

    I guess I’d better make a paper template, eh? Won’t be able to get it done till sometime next week…

  36. Clyde October 10th, 2009 10:18 am

    Lou, I just mounted some Freerides last night and used your paper template. It worked well but I think the templates would be even better if you put front and rear centered on separate pages with a very long center line. Add some parallel lines about 2″ on either side too for easier trimming. And some WildSnow logos to remind people they owe you a beer. Of course an NTN template would be nice for some of us but I don’t think it’s that cold in hell yet. :tongue:

    Also, I’d suggest people not bother with measuring distance for the heel unit. An easier way is to trim your heel template narrower than the ski and put tape at each. Then set the template on the ski with the heel unit on top. Raise and lower the plate a dozen times while aligning the heel unit and centering template through the screw holes. When satisfied, tape the template down, punch and drill. Seems to me there is less chance of screwing up this way but YMMV.

  37. Lou October 10th, 2009 4:41 pm

    Clyde, thanks, yeah, I’ve realized that having nice long center lines on the template makes this whole process easier, so I’ll divide the template into two pages. Probably pretty easy to do, but I won’t know for sure till I try, as it’s been a while since I messed around with those things…

  38. DeSean October 26th, 2009 7:03 pm

    Are brakes included with these? And if so, what\’s the width?

  39. Lou October 27th, 2009 6:42 am

    Brakes are included. Anyone know what width the brakes are? I’ll find out later this morning.

  40. Colin October 27th, 2009 8:16 am

    My Eagles came with a 100mm brake which required a little bending to get around my 96mm in the waist skis.
    Anyone found a paper jig for the Eagles?

  41. Lou October 27th, 2009 8:56 am

    I’m working on the jig. Dang. Don’t seem to have enough time!

  42. Mark Worley October 28th, 2009 7:40 pm

    The Eagles I have on the bench have 80 mm brakes, and yes, the jig needed has significantly different front screw position when compared to the Freeride Plus. Guess I am going to need another jig for the shop!

  43. freshseeker November 16th, 2009 3:20 pm

    Thanks for the review. Heres some animations of the toe piece:
    Is the material that surrounds the front pin plastic or metal? Seems like after a few thousand strides the material that houses the pin would get worn out and the front end could become sloppy.

  44. Jarrod November 26th, 2009 7:25 pm

    Hi Lou,

    For 50/50 resort/bc use would you go Barons or Eagles?

    Skiers scale 1-10 (10 being highest) i’m about a 7. Like small jumps and drops but not huge!

    I have a Tele set up but now want my first AT setup – but unsure which way to go. I hear Barons are as solid as alpine binders, but heavy. Then I hear of Fritschi’s ‘coming loose’. I’m a bigger guy at 225lb and quite strong…


  45. Lou November 27th, 2009 10:44 am

    With the amount of BC use you claim, I’d go with the Eagle first and see how it does for you.

  46. Mike December 5th, 2009 7:33 am

    I currently use Diamir 3’s on BD Crossbows (Struktura boots) as a one rig setup. Advanced skier but nothing crazy. Although I have never had a problem with the bindings, thinking about upgrading/changing. Would the Eagle upgrade be substantial? Freerides? Keep what I have? Trying to balance cost vs. reward.

  47. Lou December 5th, 2009 7:45 am

    Mike, how tall and what weight, and what percentage of skiing at resort?

  48. Mike December 5th, 2009 10:12 am


    5’9″ and 170 lbs. 48 yo if that matters and 60/40 resort. Mostly New York resorts, with a week in NH & VT in Tuckerman, Jay Peak and Stowe area, a week inbounds out West and a week in the Cascades every other summer. Thanks.


  49. Lou December 5th, 2009 3:17 pm

    Mike, I’d just stick with your Diamirs ’till you wear them out.

  50. Josh December 6th, 2009 11:19 pm

    So, what bindings do I mount to my new 175 kilowats? Eagle, Dynafit, or Onyx? This will be my front and back side ski. What one of these ski the best?

  51. Lou December 7th, 2009 7:16 am

    Sounds like a dilemma. I’m of course biased to the lighter binders such as Onyx and Dynafit. Both perform quite well in all modes, but are not true step-in so if you’re at the resort much it’s sometimes nicer to have the real step-in and Eagle is a good bet for that the tours quite nicely as well.

  52. Gianluca December 9th, 2009 11:20 pm

    Why are they sold through Black Diamond? Fritschi is Swiss, BD is American, I thought.

  53. shark December 16th, 2009 11:51 am

    Just some comments on bindings.

    Dynafit are lightest but have problems with heal piece bushings wearing. Field replaceable and you can flip the old one over for a short period fix. Changing between touring and ski modes can be a hassle. Toe pin recepticles in the boots can fill with ice – a real pain to remove. Front binding can ice and then won’t engage. A fix is described on the net – some grinding is necessary. Sometimes a real pain to get back in the binding say in deep snow and other situations. If you ski with FINESS they will work at a resort and stand up.

    Onyx – I don’t have much experience with them. Similar design to the Dnafits. Probably similar icing and operational problems except easier to switch modes. Stll not a heavy duty binding for the resort.

    Next on the lightness scale is the Silvretta Pure in various forms. New and improved reliabilty with beefier heal pieces and replaceable front pivot busings. Nice ergonomics with pivot placed back of toe. Fully operable from a standing position with a ski pole. Step in/out. No real screwing around – but can ice in the heal piece in warmer conditions – need to duct tape or use lube/wax. Some clacking noise touring. My wife skiis these bindings – never has to take her gloves off – great if you have problems with cold hands, etc. Usable at resorts – again requiring FINESS.

    Fritsch of various forms. Heavier and heavier duty than above. Eagle is a nice ergonomic binding – pivot placed back, operable with ski pole standing up, step in/out. Fairly loud clacking when touring. Minimum binding for brute force skiers especially at resorts. Can eject on hard off balance landings especially forward. Some icing.

    Markers of various forms. Dukes Heaviest and heaviest duty. Solid binding, basically a downhill binding. To change modes you have to remove boot from binding. Snow buildup. Highest din setting if that is what drives you – in that case maybe you should learn how to ski better. Best for a resort especially for brute force skiers.

    Any comments?

  54. Jonathan Shefftz December 16th, 2009 4:29 pm

    “Changing between touring and ski modes can be a hassle.”

    – Rotate heel unit.
    – Step down.
    – How is this a hassle?

  55. XXX_er December 20th, 2009 4:37 pm

    I took a look at the eagle in the shop yesterday and something I havent heard anyone mention up till now (unless I missed it ) is the redesigned AFD at the the toe

    the AFD is spring loaded and slides in a track to either side which looks to be a superiour design IMO

    OR maybe it will have problems …we will have to see

  56. Gianluca December 28th, 2009 7:05 pm

    I have just received my new skis with fritschi eagle bindings! I just love them! I have not tested them yet but I have done some experiments. I have owned silvretta pure performance and I think the eagle has a superior release mechanism. Also switching between modes seems easier.

    I tested the release mechanism of the eagle by putting a boot into the binding. Then I tried to twist the boot out of the binding by pushing the toe outwards. I didn’t hit it, I just pushed with constant force until the binding released. I was able to release it with not too much force. The DIN setting is 6.5. I tried exactly the same thing with silvretta which has a DIN setting of 7. That required a lot more force. I loved to watch with the eagle how the toe piece was slowly rotating outwards while pushing. The toe piece of the silvretta instead remained stiff while the boot was pushed backwards until the heel piece released. Which of the two mechanisms do you think is more gentle on your ACL? I would say Fritschi’s.

  57. Jihn Douka January 2nd, 2010 11:21 am

    I need some advise on buying my first AT bindings. I bought a pair of BD Voodoo skis for resort and touring trips. I can only have one pair of skis for now so I need maximum versatility. I’d like to buy the Fritschi Eagles because of the improved pivot point but since these will be my first AT bindings I may not know the difference. The Fritschi Explore are on sale now so I’m willing to save money if these will work. Any suggestions? Since these will be my first bindings, does it really matter? Or should I buy what is on sale and save some money?
    Thank you!

  58. Lou January 2nd, 2010 11:44 am

    J, if your funds are limited you’ll be fine going budget with Explore, but if you’re trying to save money for your beer budget, skip a few beers and get the Eagles. Louu

  59. Gianluca January 4th, 2010 3:49 pm

    I would go for the Eagle. The better pivot point does make a difference. Later you might regret to have saved the money and not bought the best.

  60. john Douka January 5th, 2010 8:47 am

    Thank you for the advise! I did order the Eagles and they should be mounted on my skis soon. Any suggestions about positioning the bindings? I’m an average skier now but will work on skiing more agressive terrain over the season. I’m 5’11’ 170 and I have BD Vodoo 175s .
    Thanks again!

  61. greg January 8th, 2010 8:53 am

    the question whether this improved pivot point is worth something is discussed here in switzerland as well. i heard that at a ski test, some testers made a blind best between a explore and a eagle, and barely anyone could tell which binding he/she was using. combined with the fact that the eagle is heavier than the explore (actually even heavier than the freeride if stoppers are considered as well!), i wonder whether advantages or disadvantages over the explore dominate. in the end, i think, net could be around zero, but with the clear disadvantage that nobody knows how physically stable and longlasting the gliding mechanism will be.

  62. John January 16th, 2010 5:35 pm

    I have bought a pair of Eagles but , as I am in the Southern Hemisphere, not used yet. Two comments. First, there is no separate return spring and this seems to result in the rear of the skis hanging down at a steep angle (the limit of their travel) when the ski is suspended in touring mode . So kick turns when going uphill could be much more challenging. But perhaps I have missed something basic… .this change must have been deliberate , so maybe there is an adjustment in the pivot mechanism with a similar function to the optional one or two return springs in the Freeride and earlier Diamir models. Second there is no Fritschi model crampon to fit skis with waists wider than 86mm. This seems to be a significant downside but perhaps Fritschi have another, wider (100mm?), pair of crampons on the drawing boards. Any comments, Lou or others ?.

  63. harpo March 1st, 2010 5:45 pm

    Lou, a couple of years ago, you did a flex text (how far a boot deflected side to side when mounted in various AT bindings) for a variety of bindings, and Dynafit and Marker Duke bindings came out on top for AT bindings. Have you tested the Fritschi Eagle for this, as it is supposed to be better than previous Fritchis in this respect? If not, could you do this test, and publish your results as you did with the other bindings.

    Also, what new developements with there be with Fritschi bindings for next season? I couldn’t find that info in your blog, if you already published it, please tell me where…….

    I don’t like Dukes, and want an AT binding that is easier to step into than Dynafits, but still has good edge hold.

  64. harpo March 1st, 2010 6:22 pm

    Lou, just found out about the Fritschi Freeride Pro. Do you have any info on that binding, especially its slop/flex compared to the other AT bindings?

  65. Kate March 15th, 2010 1:56 pm

    Is the new anti-insta-tele heel unit with the little spring installable on older Fritschis? Having the heel suddenly “release” has been my only issue with the binding.

  66. Lou March 15th, 2010 3:18 pm

    Kate, sorry to say this feature is not new, and no, it can’t be easily retrofitted… Lou

  67. John March 15th, 2010 3:52 pm

    Lou, I would be interested in your comments on the queries above (January 16th)

  68. David Ross, Ecosse December 15th, 2010 10:55 am

    Hi, I have recently purchased freeride plus binding and noted that when sitting boot in binding, that there appeared to be space between binding and boot sole at toe. This surprised me as I thought that sole of boot toe would be resting on ski binding and not, as it would appear, jammed between heel and toe binding.
    Comments please

  69. Ed F April 16th, 2011 7:15 pm

    These bindings really tour nicely with the new pivot. Very comfortable.

  70. Franco May 24th, 2012 1:29 pm

    I’m out on the market for an AT binding for one of my kids. He’s just eleven and therefore even the lightest will be “freeride grade” for him.

    I have a previous experience with fritschis Express for an now older boy, and I think they are great for simplicity, and light enough too.

    The thing now is I can only seem to get Eagles, and I am concerned by the huge height underfoot. I just don’t know how to assess the effect the 39? mm high stance will have on such little guy. Sould I expect it be any worse/different than the familiar Explores in anyway?

    Otherwise, I have been taking a look on the marker F10. We usually take our skis off to peel skins anyway, and powder here is not the scuba diving type either, so ok with the tour switch thing. But on the other hand the pivot wear thing might be an issue? or maybe not for a light weight kid? In the grams count the don’t seem to be a lot of difference and the marker would perhaps be beefier on the lift line for a wild boy.

    All of this will be done in alpine boots, it maybe worth noting, a guess. On 168 rossignol S1. The plan is some kids sidecountry, earn turns in a quick morning tour now and then and, hopefully, more than a couple of easy overnighters. Overall, some 70% on lift terrain, maybe more.

    As it shows… I get trouble to put it shortly, sorry, but I’d really appreciate your thoughts. Great page by the way.

    (…oh, we are waaaay down south right here, so snow is on the way. Just for all this may shopping to make some kind of sense up north!)

  71. Lou May 24th, 2012 5:10 pm

    Keep it lightweight for the kid, and don’t even mention the height of the ski, it’s no big deal but could be introduced as a psychological block if you obsess on it. People make too big a deal out of it. Lou

  72. Harold January 2nd, 2015 10:45 pm

    Lou, I have a pair of these Fritschi eagles . But unfortunately I have the XL size, which is just w little long for me. Modes you think it is possible to cut the bar down just a little?

  73. XXX_er January 3rd, 2015 10:08 am

    I can’t find the link but someone cut the bar down on an XL fristchi to fit a small kids boot, to my understanding the binding needs to be an XL so a completely new slot can be milled in the bar … therefore only an XL is long enough

  74. Lou Dawson 2 January 3rd, 2015 10:35 am

    XXer, yeah, I recall that, perhaps over on TGR, it appeared to be quite a chore, shortening the old Silvrettas was much easier.


    And Silvretta also had the Kidz version. They were ahead of the times. Now, they’d sell a ton of shorter bindings.


  75. XXX_er January 3rd, 2015 11:04 am
  76. Nic May 31st, 2017 3:14 pm

    I have an offer for a used Fischer X-Pression with a Fritschi Eagle 10 mounted and some skins. Not sure about age/condition but they claim it has not been used a lot.

    They are 140 cm and I thought about getting them for my son, new stuff being way to expensive just for a few days out there before he outgrows them… he is 8, but really rather tall.

    Can the Diamir Eagle be used with normal children ski boots? Or do they require AT boots (that would probably mean not getting them and the kid would have to wait a few more years for his first tour).

    Thanks for opinions on the set.

  77. Lou Dawson 2 May 31st, 2017 7:00 pm

    Hi Nic, the binding should work to some degree for children ski boots, I assume you mean actual DIN juvenile alpine boots with the juvenile shaped sole? Two problems you might encounter: Watch how the binding heel closes down on the boot heel shelf, and test your releases on the workbench. Move him to adult ski boots ASAP. Lou

  78. Nic June 1st, 2017 11:56 am

    Ah thank you very much. I did not even know there was a difference between alpine adult and alpine kids shoes.

  79. Lou Dawson 2 June 1st, 2017 12:16 pm

    Yeah, I think it’s ISO 5355 that has the norms for a child ski boot. In any case, there are indeed two different sole dimensions.

    I MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG about the junior alpine boot sole fitting the Eagle binding off the shelf. You might need to do some shimming.

    I have some older smaller children’s ski boots here and tried them in an Eagle, the rear sole is too thin for the heel to clamp down on, and I’m not sure if the toe would adjust.

    ‘best, Lou

  80. Nic June 2nd, 2017 3:44 pm

    I try to find some statement on the internet and sent a question to Fritschi. Let’s see if they answer. Thanks again.

  81. Lou Dawson 2 June 2nd, 2017 3:58 pm

    Nic, the junior boots I have here do not fit, but they’re pretty old and I’m not sure they are ISO 5355. If you need, let me know and I’ll find a pair of ISO 5335 junior boots and try them. I can do that next week probably. ‘best, Lou

  82. Nic June 2nd, 2017 4:51 pm

    Gotta check what boots the kids have. Where does it state the ISO on the boot?

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