Salomon Mountain Collection Firstlook — 2015 OR Show Fun Begins


Post by WildSnow.com blogger | January 20, 2015      
MTN LAB boot

Salomon MTN LAB boot — no Virginia, they didn’t bring out the new Salomon frameless ski touring binding system.

Yesterday Salomon unveiled their new backcountry options at Alta ski area. I was lucky enough to get out on some of the gear. They have a full lineup of gear, minus bindings (what happened, I thought we were going to see BINDINGS?), that is headlined by their new ski touring shoe: the MTN LAB boot.

Some of the marketing people from Salomon filled us in on their ideas about what they want this new line to be, and where they see it fitting into the market. They explained that Salomon’s history is that of a downhill/resort skiing company. Of course they have branched out into many different markets in the past, but that is what they know and are good at. So with their MTN Backcountry line they knew they had no business making the absolute lightest gear. They want to make gear that first and foremost performs great on the downhill and as well as possible on the uphill.

I’ll begin with the main attraction: the MTN LAB boot. One thing that impressed me was how closely the engineers worked with the Salomon athletes like Greg Hill in designing the boot. His main point of emphasis was to make sure the boot had a nice progressive flex. They started from scratch, building the boot from the ground up. This is a two buckle tech binding compatible boot with a booster strap. The weight that they give is stated at under 1.5 KG. The range of motion when touring is 47 degrees and has a 120 flex.

To help with downhill performance they made MTN Lab with a 98 mm last. This may be too narrow for some, but perfect for my skinny feet. To help with the weight they used what they call a Sensifit Shell Technology (Pebax upper cuff, and EcoPaxx lower shell). Essentially it is a molding system that is quite thin, but with reinforced areas (the lightning bolt looking thing on the sides). What this does is keep the boot from bowing out when you flex — incidentally a goal of ski boot makers for about 75 years, or more.

I could definitely feel this reinforcement while skiing through some bumps on the resort in the afternoon. Another feature they used to cut down on some weight was to use a textile piece on the top of the foot that goes from a bit behind the toes to the flex point. This doesn’t interfere with the skiing performance but makes it more comfortable and tours easier. The only issue that I see with this is warmth on very cold days (it is quite thick, so that will have to be seen), and durability issues. Again, only time will tell.

To get the progressive flex that they desired Salomon made small wings on the bottom of the rear spoiler in the shell. These wings engage the lower shell and make the boot flex progressively into the turn when you need it to. This was the first thing that I noticed when flexing the boot. It was not like many other touring boots out there that seem to hit a wall when you flex them. I was impressed.

The pivot point was also an interesting piece. It is quite oversized (24 mm) much as some of their alpine boots, specifically the X Max. This helps to reduce play to better the downhill performance. The pivot point is also higher than many other touring boots. Usually that makes the touring efficiency, the degrees of movement, less. However the design of the walking mechanism allows for the degree of movement to remain high.

The walk mechanism is amazing in my opinion. The ease of transitions was pretty incredible. The mechanism is similar to the Dynafit Vulcan in how it works. The main difference is that it is not the buckle that locks the boot into ski mode but a small switch. It is metal on metal to make sure that it doesn’t wear out. It is in a direct line with the top buckle, so when you go to buckle the boot to ski you can easily lock the boot into ski mode in one motion. You can transition the boot in a matter of seconds. The rear spine is carbon which adds rearward support on the descent — great news for those of us who ski in the backseat. A few other features are the moldable liner and a rockered sole with a Chevron Winter Contragrip sole.

All in all I liked how the boot skied. It was very responsive and the progressive flex felt amazing. We did a few skinning laps off the side of the resort and I was more than happy with how easy it was to transition the boot over. Anything to speed up my sorry transitions is great news. The MTN LAB Boot will go for $950 MSRP.

They also have a lighter less burly option called the MTN Explore. Similar design just lighter and less stiff. MSRP of $850.

Salomon MTN LAB boot

Salomon MTN LAB boot

I was also able to get out on the MTN LAB Freeride touring ski as well. It will not be changed from this year’s model, the Q BC LAB, so I won’t get too much into it. The dimensions are 140-114-128 mm, so it is quite a wide ski with a big radius. It has both tip and tail rocker and some camber underfoot. To cut down on weight it has a poplar core with a honeycomb tip and a CFX Superfiber sheet. This is a carbon/flax laminate that helps to dampen the ski without adding any real weight. All in all it is a super playful powder ski. I had fun on it.

Unfortunately I was not able to get on their new ski the MTN Explore 95. I did get to take a close look at it. It seems like more of a ski that you could take on a long tour with its mid fat size and light weight. It has similar construction to its bigger brother, but has a 3D core. They are essentially going back to what made the old Pocket Rocket so successful, but making it better and for the backcountry. Again, I was not able to get on this ski, so I can’t speak to its performance. Those who were on it seemed to really enjoy it, but then, the ski press seem to enjoy themselves quite readily at these sorts of events. It will MSRP at $850.

A few other pieces in the collection are the poles and helmet. The helmet is something that I have been wanting for a while. It is rated to take a ski crash as well as rock fall. Basically it is a ski mountaineer’s helmet — one helmet that you can alpine climb with as well as ski the resort. It weighs in at a nice and light 300 grams with an EPS 4D construction which absorbs 30% more shock then required (WildSnow.com policy is that ski helmets should be more absorptive than the current standard, so good). A few features that are nice is a merino wool removable linern . On those cold days you can swap out a nice warm hat. A micro fit dial and headlamp holders for the alpine starts round out the features. The helmet is light and comfortable. No need for a quiver of helmets anymore. It will sell at $200.

MTN Carbon S3is

MTN Carbon S3is

To me a ski pole is a ski pole. They are a pretty basic tool. However the MTN Carbon S3is pretty slick with some nice features that actually make this more than just your everyday stick. The Salomon Safety Strap is a pole strap that will come out of the pole once enough pull is given to it. The tension can be adjusted as well. You can now ski with your straps on in avi terrain and know that they will release from you if you get caught (though if you’re using an airbag you may consider going strapless in risky terrain for a more reliable trigger grab). Same goes for tree skiing. The grip extends down to use while side hilling. They are adjustable with both shafts made of carbon. The lower shaft has a Kevlar reinforcement to protect the carbon from your ski edges. The articulating baskets seemed gimicky until I used them. When skinning they almost never kicked out when I pushed on them, an annoyance to me that I was glad to leave behind.

I am quite impressed with Salomon’s lineup of backcountry gear. The MTN boots especially have me excited. It will be interesting to see how they fare after I put them through the wringer of ski mountaineering season in Colorado.

SALOMON PRESS RELEASE direct to you from WildSnow.com, edited for brevity and clarity:

Salomon MTN LAB boot, NEW FW15/16, MSRP $950
Featuring the NEW Sensifit Shell, Motion Flex Technologies, Surelock Mechanism, My Custom Fit 3D full thermo liner and a full length Contragrip rubber sole, the MTN LAB boot has been built from the ground up to fill all of your backcountry ski boot needs. When you’re tired of sacrificing performance in the name of weight, reach for the MTN LAB boot.

Features:
Weight – 1.576 kg
My Custom Fit 3D Full Thermo Liner
Sensifit Shell Technology
Motion Flex Technology
Surelock Skiwalk Mechanism
Light Articulated Overlap and Textil Cover (waterproof)
Carbon fiber BC spine
24 MM riveted oversized pivot
Pebax upper cuff
EcoPaxx lower shell

Salomon MTN Explore boot, NEW FW15/16, MSRP $850
Hike up and appreciate the lightweight touring boot. Charge down with the confidence born from Salomon’s performance based tradition. Featuring the NEW Sensifit Shell, Motion Flex Technologies, Surelock Mechanism, My Custom Fit 3D full thermo liner and a full length Contragrip rubber sole, the MTN Explore boot has been built from the ground up to fill all of your backcountry touring needs.

Features:
Weight – 1.45 kg
Ultralight My Custom Fit 3D Full Thermo Liner
Sensifit Shell Technology
Motion Flex Technology
Surelock Skiwalk Mechanism
Light Articulated Overlap and Textil Cover (waterproof)
Carbon fiber touring spine
24 MM riveted oversized pivot
Touring PP cuff
Grilamid lower shell

Salomon MTN LAB Helmet, NEW FW15/16, MSRP $200
With the MTN LAB Helmet, Salomon makes it easy for you to bring one helmet every time you go on a mountain adventure. Whether you’re shredding inbounds laps or or summiting a peak on a mountaineering mission, the MTN LAB is THE helmet choice for guides, professionals and enthusiasts alike. Featuring EPS 4D Construction which absorbs 30% more shock then required, and a sub-300 gram weight, the MTN LAB helmet is the lightest helmet that meets both alpine and climbing safety standards.

Features:
EPS 4D protection
Weight – 300 grams
Multi-use protection
Liner – AdvancedSkin ActiveDry with Merino Wool
Head lamp holders
Custom Dial
Backcountry backpack helmet bag

Ze Skis

Ze Skis

Salomon MTN Explore 95 ski, NEW FW15/16, MSRP $850
Built with the backcountry skier in mind, the NEW MTN Explore 95 features Spaceframe 2.0 design for power where needed when skinning up and skiing down, a 3D core for the perfect balance of stability and control while reducing weight, CFX Superfiber, MTN Rocker, G-Spot Technology for secure climbing and skin compatible construction. It’s lightweight but stable construction is perfect for long approaches followed by steep descents.

Features:
Weight – 1400 grams
Full sandwich sidewall underfoot
Utility Rocker
Space Frame 2.0
3D Full Woodcore
CFX Superfiber
G-Spot Technology
Skin Clip Tail
Honeycomb Tip
Carve Zone

Salomon MTN Explore 88 ski, NEW FW15/16, MSRP $800
Built with the backcountry skier in mind, the NEW MTN Explore 88 features Spaceframe 2.0 design for power where needed when skinning up and skiing down, a 3D core for the perfect balance of stability and control while reducing weight, CFX Superfiber, MTN Rocker, G-Spot Technology for secure climbing and skin compatible construction. Its lightweight but stable construction is perfect for long approaches followed by steep descents, especially when you need skinny skis to fit the Austrian ski culture.

Features:
Weight – 1220 grams
Utility Rocker
Semi Sandwich construction
Space Frame 2.0
3D Full Woodcore
CFX Superfiber
G-Spot Technology
Skin Clip Tail
Honeycomb Tip
Carve Zone

Salomon MTN Carbon S3 pole, NEW FW15/16, MSRP $150 featuring the S3 auto-release strap system.

Features:
S3 – Salomon Safety Strap series
S3 BC grip
Articulated BC basket
Carbon lower shaft – 14mm, Kevlar reinforcement
Carbon upper shaft – 16 mm



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38 Responses to “Salomon Mountain Collection Firstlook — 2015 OR Show Fun Begins”

  1. Joe Puchek January 20th, 2015 12:12 pm

    have an S1 Ortovox that’s maybe 3 years old…..just stopped working. and yes, i’ve tried 3 different sets of batteries. can get it to make a sound. any ideas? it’s been great up til now

  2. Greg Louie January 20th, 2015 12:19 pm

    Both of the new Salomon skis are exceptional – I skied the Explore 95 and 88 last week on rock hard, chattery groomers and the new carbon/flax laminate really does work as advertised. The MTN Lab boot kills it as well, very powerful and precise with excellent lateral power transfer and a superior tongue design that really wraps the shin.

    Poles are great, with a very well thought out strap and “undergrip” area, weight on the medium helmet I got was actually 388 g. Overall, a very impressive rollout from Salomon.

  3. Lou Dawson 2 January 20th, 2015 12:21 pm

    I like the helmet.

  4. Greg Louie January 20th, 2015 12:24 pm

    Yeah, the helmet is really nice. Fits just like a Smith Vantage (meaning oval, rather than round) the medium adjusted all the way out fits like a glove (also like the Vantage).

  5. Anders Andreasen January 20th, 2015 12:47 pm

    Bindings was presented in europe today: http://communitytouringclub.com/nouveautes-salomon-2016/

  6. Lou Dawson 2 January 20th, 2015 1:07 pm

    Thanks Anders, I was virtually certain they would be introducing a binding, I’m highly disappointed that they didn’t show it at the OR press gathering. In fact, I think it was downright strange. We go to a lot of effort to cover these events, and to have a company not show a product and one event, and show it at another, is not exactly appreciated. In any case, the binding appears to be a yawner?

    Translated text from the French.

    The binding is a lighter version of a tech binding with care taken to small details. A patented retractable toe stop helps guide the boot during step-in. We worked our skis with a plate to limit the possibility of tearing of the binding that is wider than a traditional tech binding. The heel is as simple as possible with a single spring. A slide provides 30 mm adjustment for boot length. It weighs 565 g per pair with the screw and the adjustment of the heel plate. Difference in height between the toe and heel is 5 mm as a successful alpine binding “says Tony Lamiche, guide and developer of this touring range (MTN brand in the jargon) with Romain Raisson and Timy Théaux . A much closer version of what are Plum and Dynafit, classical unlike the Vipec or Kingpin . The U shaped spring in the heel sets vertical release, three bindings will be available with different vertical release values. Compared to the photo, there will be a second heel lift and the price is 450 euros.

  7. etto January 20th, 2015 1:38 pm

    Any pics of the helmet? Adjustible venting?

  8. Dave Field January 20th, 2015 1:51 pm

    Joe, send your beacon to Ortovox directly if you remain stumped. They are pretty good regarding repair and/or credit. There’s an office here in Calgary I’ve dealt with and they are good people. I doubt its a simple user serviceable thing that’s caused it to crap out. Good luck.

  9. Tom Gos January 20th, 2015 2:03 pm

    I’m excited to see Salomon moving into the backcountry market in a big way, especially with more free-touring oriented products. For me, I’ll gladly spend an extra 15 minutes on the climb with heavier gear in exchange for a superior downhill experience. Very pleased to read that the Salomon boot will have a 98mm last for the narrow footed among us. Remember, you can make a 98mm last into a 102mm last, but its very difficult to go the other way.

    I think that as the alpine companies move more into baccountry gear we are going to see huge improvements in boots and skis, even a company like Dynafit doesn’t have the R&D horsepower and resources of a Salomon or Nordica, its just simple economics.

    As to Lou’s comment that the Solly tech binding may be a bit of a yawner, I think another solid product in the market could help drive down prices, particularly given Salomon’s distribution network – that alone is worth some enthusiasm. And as was reported earlier on this site, innovation doesn’t always equal quality. Time will tell.

  10. Joe Puchek January 20th, 2015 3:00 pm

    i’d send it to Ortovox, but i’m living in France for the winter. not sure where to send. if i was still in Colorado, it’d be easy. the Swiss might be a little more difficult. anyone know a contact i could email or speak to on this side of the pond?

  11. Anton January 20th, 2015 3:36 pm

    No binding Lou. They are only releasing it in Europe this year. We skied around on Dynafit Radicals.

  12. Anton January 20th, 2015 3:54 pm

    Etto, the vents do not adjust. They stay open, but a hat fits underneath it well, so on cold days that would’ve the way to go.

  13. Michael January 20th, 2015 5:30 pm

    My quiver has long been in need of some G-spot technology. Thank you Salomon

  14. alex January 21st, 2015 12:05 am

    “They started from scratch, building the boot from the ground up”
    ahahahahahah!!!!!!ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
    yes, exactly as they did with the bindings…..right?

  15. Lou Dawson 2 January 21st, 2015 12:06 am

    Anton, are the boot fittings the certified Dynafit ones, or something Salomon cooked up on their own? Super important to know. They could make good fittings, but if they are not the certified ones they’ll need some testing for durability and function. Thanks, Lou

  16. Lou Dawson 2 January 21st, 2015 12:39 am

    By the way everyone, we’re not going to let the freeride marketing machine take over WildSnow.com, though we’ll give them their due. We are about human powered ski touring, preferably not involving ski resorts, perhaps utilizing cable or petrol for transportation now and then (grin). Lou

  17. Pablo January 21st, 2015 3:02 am

    Lou they’re using their own fittings,
    The same used on Atomic Wayback and some Salom,on Quest the last 2 years.
    Just this time, fittings are integrated in the sole, not in replaceable soles.

  18. Lou Dawson 2 January 21st, 2015 3:19 am

    Okay, thanks Pablo, the fittings seem to have proved out but always good to keep an eye on this issue, since there is no ISO standard for the fittings and sometimes companies don’t understand how they’re supposed to work. Lou

  19. Wookie January 21st, 2015 5:07 am

    clean boots….but nothing there to make me freak out. Fit and durability are all that matters I guess….
    Do we know where the boots are being made? This sometimes gives me a clue as to if they will fit a particular foot – because the lasts are usually the same at a particular manufacturer.

    I never have fit into their Alpine stuff well – but many others do.

  20. Steve January 21st, 2015 6:46 am

    Stumbled across Salomon’s MTN website at http://mtn.salomon.com/

  21. Powbanger January 21st, 2015 8:09 am

    It doesn’t surprise me the binding will not be released in the U.S. Company liability lawyers are most likely to be the reason. Selling ski bindings without integrated brakes is a big red flag for them. I’ll go out on a limb and say once they have a brake you’ll see it in the US market.
    I’ll also go out on a limb and say this is just the start of the big ski companies jumping into the AT market with AT specific gear. Salomon and Atomic are introducing new boots and skis, I’m sure the other big brands are bringing AT models to market over the next few weeks. I know this will not be a popular statement, but shops will be making some tough decisions on their product selections. Big companies = bigger margins for shops.
    Innovation will always trump the $ though, so it is going to be exciting to see how the AT specific brands react.

  22. Lou Dawson 2 January 21st, 2015 8:10 am

    Perhaps if the big companies have their way, we’ll be buying the good stuff out of car trunks like the first tech bindings were sold in Italy way back when. History repeats. Lou

  23. Powbanger January 21st, 2015 8:19 am

    We very well might be Lou…at least we’ll get a great deal.

  24. Anton January 21st, 2015 9:09 am

    The fitting is their own, but it is put into the boot itself, not a sole block. I can try and find out more. I’ll be putting it through the wringer as well and will report back on any durability issues. I have to imagine that they learned their lesson from that whole Quest debacle and made sure that was not going to happen again.

  25. Andy January 21st, 2015 9:26 am

    How is this “just the start” of big companies going into AT? Salomon, Atomic and Marker have all either released or shown off tech bindings. They’ve all had touring boots for years, even if some weren’t as light as people here want, but that’s changing right now. Basically everyone has had some light-ish skis in the lineup aimed at AT, though again, probably not as light as the weight weenies want. We’ve seen new skins being tested. What’s left? A Tyrolia or Look tech binding? A Lange touring boot that doesn’t suck? You’re just filling in the margins at that point. Even this year’s crop of stuff feels very incremental to me, with the possible exception of the Khion (overlap boot that allegedly tours like a Vulcan). The most excitement seems to be: 1. The possibility that the big boys will drive prices down. 2. There will be more choice in last sizing on TLT-class boots with Solly and Atomic getting involved.

    It will be interesting to see how Dynafit/Scarpa/LaSportiva react.

  26. TimZ January 21st, 2015 10:32 am

    I wonder who is actually designing their bindings. Portions of the toe base plate(crampon receptor) look similar to other ATK toes, but toe wings look more similar to Plum.

  27. powbanger January 21st, 2015 11:15 am

    “just filling in the margins” What if these new boots from Salomon and Atomic are just the tip…just to see how it feels? It takes two or more years to develop boots and skis, longer for bindings. What if Lange has something up their sleeve, it’s already known that Look will be distributing Dynafit bindings.
    It’s the start of the big companies building or buying more honest AT gear. Yes they all have walk feature boots, but they’re not made to hike in. It looks like this new Salomon is. All this talk of AT being the fastest growing segment in the industry the big companies will drive the prices down and margins up (good for retailers) and the smaller companies will push some innovation at higher prices. All though $900 for the new Salomon boots does seem a little expensive. It all boils down to more and better toys for us.

  28. Andy January 21st, 2015 9:15 pm

    @powbanger: I guess I just see the big explosion as right now. Atomic/Solly just filled out a lot of the touring/mountaineering end of their lineup with the new stuff, so I’m not expecting a ton more in the “tour-first” category from them over the next 2-4 years. I don’t have a lot confidence in Lange or Nordica putting out some amazing touring boot in this category any time soon. Maybe Tecnica will try. Sure, that’s more choices, which is great, but I don’t think we’ll see any huge differences in their functionality aside from fit, which is certainly a good thing. The new tech binding offerings aren’t anywhere close to revolutionary, which is a testament to the original design. Maybe they’ll get cheaper, which is great. Maybe my lack of excitement comes from the fact that Dynafit boots fit me and their bindings have always worked perfectly, so none of this stuff looks particularly exciting. Now, if someone makes a much better pair of skins, I’m all in.

  29. powbanger January 22nd, 2015 11:13 am

    @Andy Two brands launching new gear is not an explosion. You have Lange, Nordica, Tecnica, Rossignol, Dalbello, which I would guess all have real AT boot products in some stage of development. While you might not trust these brands to make a real AT boot at this point because with the exception of Dalbello they have not invested money to make a real AT boot yet. (as far as I know)
    I’m sure the ski companies are working on lighter skis as well. It’s the market which dictates the energy and resources a brand brings to the table. Some of these brands build more skis in a year than DPS, La Sportiva, BD, and Dynafit combined.
    They can certainly build ultra lightweight skis which ski great and cost less when the market allows it to happen.
    In the end competition pushes all the vendors to be better.

  30. Andy January 22nd, 2015 2:34 pm

    @powbanger: Should probably continue this over beer, but: Lange and Rossignol are basically the same thing when it comes to boots, and I’m not at all convinced that they/it would go much beyond something like the Cochise Pro Light in terms of touring specialization. The Lange XT is already out there. It’s, in my opinion, a pretty weak offering (strange walk mode, no tech fittings), so I could see them moving the ball forward a tiny bit so they can check the touring box. Same for Nordica. But I wouldn’t expect either of them to put out anything people here will give a damn about.

    Not EVERYONE is going to go whole hog into ski mountaineering (i.e. beyond simply making a middle-of-the-pack walk-mode boot like the Cochise or K2 Pinnacle) in the next couple years. I doubt Nordica/Lange/Dalbello will. Tecnica seems the likeliest candidate given Blizzard’s Zero G series and the Cochise boots. I could see K2 going there.

    I stand by my guess that I don’t think we’ll see a big boom in touring-first boots from big brands beyond what’s already been announced over the next couple years. Maybe there will be one or two more.

    Same goes for bindings. There will be a ton of brand rebadging from all of these guys, some of which we’ve already heard about. That’s not new stuff, it’s just new paint. It will look like a lot more, but it’s just the same old Radical to us.

    I agree with you that more choice = good. I also agree that we ARE likely to see much more in the way of lighter skis.

  31. Rocco Snyder January 26th, 2015 7:32 am

    Good stuff from Salomon for the AT crowd after having released good stuff for the freeriders out there.
    Can anyone elaborate on the releasable pole straps of the S3 poles?

    I have been using the old Life Link poles for the last 20 years, almost. The releasable strap feature is genius and simple. It has spared me severe injuries in many cases. That includes crashes while resort skiing, fast I might add, but also blown shoulders when catching the basket on a branch while tree skiing.

    By now they are quite done with and sinceyou cant’t buy them anymore I had to build a Frankenpole out of a new Komperdell pole that I glued the Life Link pole grips to.

    For me, the releasable straps are a very important feature of a backcountry ski pole and it seems like no other company than Life Link have addressed that demand properly. And now they have seized to to so as well.

    The mentioned website for the MTN products shows the pole grip and strap but I am not sure how it will work.

    Thanks for further details on this.
    Take care!

  32. Anton January 26th, 2015 8:25 am

    Rocco. It’s basically a plastic wedge piece that snaps into the top of the grip. Inside the grip there is a push button that hold it in. The tension of it can be changed. It seems like it might wear out after a lot of use as well. But that remains to be seen.

  33. swissiphic January 26th, 2015 8:44 am

    10 years plus use of the life link poles and found the strap connection to grip unreliable. Heavy torquing on the straps while ascending would cause them to pop out. I ski all downhills without straps anyway so find the feature not so useful…especially as wear and tear loosens the tension in the long run and caused them to pop out more frequently with the odd crash on the uphill because of it in extreme high torque/steep skinning on hard snow conditions. Ended up drilling a screw through the mess to permanently affix the strap to the pole handle.

  34. Lou Dawson 2 January 26th, 2015 9:46 am

    Rocco, Scott makes an excellent releasable strap grip.

    https://www.wildsnow.com/13159/scott-s-r-s-pole-strap-release-review/

    Lou

  35. Jason Speer January 26th, 2015 11:29 am

    I ran into someone on the mountain the other day that had a pair of Leki poles without straps and matching Leki gloves with a D-ring that mated with a hook on the pole grip. It looked like an interesting bit of kit.

  36. Rocco Snyder January 27th, 2015 4:06 pm

    Well, I guess it’s a matter of preference regarding the life link pole straps. I find them helpful and appreciate the function even after so many years. Although I have to agree that they wear out a bit. Never had them come out when not needed though.
    Skiing with straps on poles but having them floating around on the down is no option, for me at least.

    Thanks Anton and Lou for the hints.
    The Salomon system seems to be similar to that of life link.

    Jason, the Leki system is quite common here in Europe, meaning in Germany and Austria. They’ve had it for quite some time.
    It works well and also does release when enough pressure is applied.
    The connection is made via the matching glove or a universal hand strap that works with any glove.
    Check out the trigger s on the website. http://usa.leki.com/789–trigger_s_movie.html

    I don’t like it because I sometimes while skiing have the poles hanging on my wrist to adjust something or put googles on etc. that will not quite work well with that system because the pole will be between thumb and index finger.
    Again, matter of preference.
    Cheers!

  37. TimZ January 29th, 2015 11:18 am

    In case anyone is interested in more info on the bindings. I translated some german catalog pages here: http://www.coloradobackyard.com/2015/01/new-atomic-bindings-for-2015.html

  38. Patrick Wesch February 9th, 2015 4:09 am

    Hi Lou, maybe I missed to find this Information, but do you know what length those new Salomon skis are? I can only find the weight of 1400g for the 95 version and 1220g for the 85. But “weight only” doesn´t give me any Information…

    thanks and greetings!





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  • Welcome to Louis (Lou) Dawson's backcountry skiing information & opinion website. Lou's passion for the past 50 years has been alpinism, climbing, mountaineering and skiing -- along with all manner of outdoor recreation. He has authored numerous books and articles about ski touring and is well known as the first person to ski down all 54 of Colorado's 14,000-foot peaks, otherwise known as the Fourteeners! Books and free ski touring news and information here.

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    Backcountry skiing is dangerous. You may be killed or severely injured if you do any form of ski mountaineering, skimo randonnee and randonnée skiing. The information and news on this website is intended only as general information. Due to human error and passing time, the information, text and images contained within this website may be inaccurate, false, or out-of-date. By using, reading or viewing the information provided on this website, you agree to absolve the owners of Wild Snow as well as content contributors of any liability for injuries or losses incurred while using such information. Furthermore, you agree to use any of this website's information, maps, photos, or binding mounting instructions templates at your own risk, and waive Wild Snow owners and contributors of liability for use of said items for ski touring or any other use.

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