Testing Dynafit 2015-2016 Broad Peak & Baltoro Skis


Post by WildSnow.com blogger | January 12, 2015      
On the sunny side of Mont Blanc, Dynafit  Broad Peak ski lined up for testing.

On the sunny side of Mont Blanc, Dynafit Broad Peak ski lined up for testing. Note the new 2015-16 version is a bright shade of green.

We’ve stayed a few extra days in France, here at hotel where Dynafit has a bunch of dealers in clinic. Thus, we’re able to continue consuming the smorgasbord of product. Today the groups broke up into a few ski tours as well as a ski evaluation on the pistes of Areches Beaufort. I’d have liked to tour, but the opportunity for a private ski test was too good to pass up.

Conditions were firm, groom to ice, with small patches of packed powder and chop. French powder! I took first run on my Cho Oyu pair for a baseline. They’ll not change for next year and are still one of my all-time favorite planks. Sure enough, the “Choodies” yielded good edge-hold and were carvy enough to enjoy. They were slightly nervous, but not to the point of misbehaving.

This next season (2015-2016) all Dynafit skis will be made by Fischer, all with construction optimized for strength to weight ratio (as well as performance for their given category). I’ve been impressed by what Fischer is doing with their branded touring ski lineup, so combining their tech with Dynafit’s goals has to be good.

The skinny “speed touring and mountaineering” Broad Peak model keeps its name, but has all-new construction that’s said to be lighter and at the same time damper. I skied the 167, short enough to know right away if any lack of damp would cause strife. At sidecut 112/75/97 (“37 mm sidecut”) you feel the lack of platform — at the same time you get edge bite enhanced by that same geometry. I hadn’t skied this narrow in a while. It’s a fun feeling, but not one I’d prefer on unsupportive snow. The skis were surprisingly damp for a carbon reinforced lightweight (catalog 1050 grams). Dynafit says this ski is suitable for ski mountaineering where “white ice” may require a specialized tool. They also suggest this as a citizen racing ski. Personally, I’d want something with a bit less sidecut for racing (for easy relaxed big-turn downhilling), as well as for skiing steep hard snow.

Christian Gaab of Dynafit chats about the Baltoro.

Christian Gaab of Dynafit chats about the Baltoro.

Next up, Baltoro. The perfect “80 mm” European touring ski, the pair of 176 I skied measure out at 116/84/103 (“32 mm sidecut”) with a dual 23/20.5 radius. I felt immediately at home on the Baltoro. They easily tilted into a strong carve, and just as with the Broad Peak I was surprised at their degree of dampness. At 1490 grams the 176 is reasonably light, but not a cupcake. Overall, after hitting perfect groom followed by frozen snowcat droppings under a snowmaking machine, I concluded these are a nicely forgiving plank that would support any level of skier.

I’d recommend the Baltoro is you’re looking for an “80.” As for Broad Peak, they were not my preference but could be yours if you want something narrow and agressive, and light. As always, try to demo before you buy. But if not, these two planks are quite the contrast, and that makes shopping decisions easier.

Dynafit 'Ski Touring' category for 2015-2016 greener Broad Peak at top. Carbonio is 'interesting' at about a kilo per ski.

Dynafit ‘Speed Touring’ category for 2015-2016 is really just the lighter weight “Ski Touring” choices. Greener Broad Peak at top. Carbonio is ‘interesting’ at 990 grams for a 167 cm length.

As an FYI, here is Dynafit’s ski lineup for 2015/2016:
DNA (full on skimo race ski)
PDG (citizen racing and racer training ski)
Carbonio 74 (a new skinny “one kilo” ski that’ll be fun for all)
Broad Peak (skinny “75 mm” for ski running or mountaineering hard conditions)
Cho Oyu (unchanged from last season, recommended)
Nanga Parbat (specialized 80 mm waist ski for extreme alpine descents)
Baltoro (damp and solid, 84 mm waist, in a word “strong)
Baltoro Women
Manaslu (similar to Cho Oyu, slightly wider)
Manaslu Women (claimed to be a bit more flexy and lighter)
Laila Peak (The exalted, the mysterious, the Laila, Clapton riff?)
Seven Summits (I’m not sure where this fits in, 82 mm waist for Euros?)
Denali (“100 waist” light “freeride” ski)
Chugach (heavier full rocker freeride, 108 waist)
Hokkaido (heavier full rocker freeride, 118 waist)



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19 Responses to “Testing Dynafit 2015-2016 Broad Peak & Baltoro Skis”

  1. Michael January 12th, 2015 8:55 am

    No huascaran or grand teton next year?

  2. Pablo January 12th, 2015 8:56 am

    Lou Seven Summits fits very well in Europe as it’s the best selling ski from Dynafit. Even best selling over Manaslu.

    Easy, light, fun and cheap…

    I think Dynafit tends to be repetitive in some models-concepts:

    Broad peak against (and between) Carbonio 74 and Nanga Parbat.
    I found ther was no need to make a new iteraion of broad peak existing Carbonio 74 and Nanga Parbat.
    Baltoro against Seven Summits.

  3. Lou Dawson 2 January 12th, 2015 9:27 am

    I’m liking the idea of Manaslu being a slightly wider Cho Oyu? And yes, I see too many skis. Perhaps the European market supports that, but other companies sometimes get too crazy with too many models. For example, glad to see Black Diamond pare it down. Much more fun to cover, test, shop… Lou

  4. Lou Dawson 2 January 12th, 2015 9:29 am

    Michael, yeah, the skis on my list are it! So get yer Teton or Hus while they’re hot, or, on sale?

  5. Erik Erikson January 12th, 2015 9:38 am

    Lou, you say “Manaslu similar to Cho Oyu, sligthly wider”. Does that mean, that the Manaslu will be similar (lightweighth!) build as the Cho next season? Would not make much sense, cause the two differ only very little in dimensons.
    Till now Manaslu has been considerable heavier (even as the wider Denali) but also a lot cheaper.
    And, @ Michael: Would be bad if they would not build Huascaran and Grand Teton anymore. If you´d want to go wider than the Denali is there would be no light Dynafit-ski available anymore i, as chugash and Hokkaido are heavier. I think both are a great adition to the Dynafit range (as far as I can tell), but REPLACING the lighter wider skis by them is quite a risk for the brand I think.

  6. Lou Dawson 2 January 12th, 2015 10:39 am

    Erik, I was just running off at the keyboard. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, and truly, we should wait and see what pops out in retail. The 2015-16 Manaslus certainly look like the same construction… when I get more numbers I’ll expound.

    It does appear that the light-wide Dynafit skis are gone, other than Denali. Dynafit is pretty motivated on breaking into the freeride market, I guess that’s proof.

    ‘best, Lou

  7. Lou Dawson 2 January 12th, 2015 10:41 am

    It might be relevant to know, this from DPS: “At the trade shows DPS will be launching a brand new backcountry construction called Tour1 (available in the Wailer112RP2, Wailer 99, and Cassiar 95), two new Hybrid T2 skis…” La Sportiva and Black Diamond will of course have their wide-light offerings as well. And so on. Every generation is allowed to invent skiing, seems like that’s going on as usual (grin). Lou

  8. Charlie Hagedorn January 12th, 2015 11:33 am

    Who’s making Dynafit skis these days, if Fischer’s taking over next year?

  9. Lou Dawson 2 January 12th, 2015 11:41 am

    Fisher was already making some, others were made possibly in Slovenia? Or are Fischers made in Slovenia? Not a big deal, really. They either work or they don’t. They’re either light or they’re not. Doesn’t matter much who makes them.

  10. Erik Erikson January 12th, 2015 1:56 pm

    Admittedly I know nothing about marketing strategies, but Dynafit leaving the “over 100mm wide light” -market abandoned (and concentrating ONLY and not additionally on the freeride-thing there) seems kind of strange to me. Especially now when they succeded in beeing known for building some very good, very lighht quite wide skies.
    Further, the Grand Teton was to the Denali a liitle bit what the Manaslu is to the Cho Oyu. A little wider, heavier, but a lot more affordable.
    But then, maybe they did not sell enough of those. At least here in Austria I can´t remember seeing a Grand Teton or Huascaran outside a shop. Maybe (in Europe?) there isnt a real market for OVER 100mm really light skies. Maybe thats the width where people stop thinking of mainly touring (and going light) but start to think mainly about the down.
    And to be honest: I by myself think that for touring in Austria most times you do not need more than 100 mm even if you emphasize the downhill. THAT ski beeing solid therefor (kind of like K2 Annex and… probably now the Dynafit Chugash…)
    So I am curios what will be seen in retail next season.
    Thanx again for providing all the brand new information and the platform for discussions and questions about it, Lou!

  11. etto January 12th, 2015 2:08 pm

    Some of Dynafit’s current offereings says made in Ukraine, but I don’t know by who.

  12. Lukas January 12th, 2015 3:09 pm

    Lou,

    do you know which one actually had the name “Double 8”?

    Lukas

  13. peter January 12th, 2015 3:30 pm

    Dynafit skis were made by Blizzard in Mittersill/Austria. If there is “Made in Austria” on the ski, it’s produced by Blizzard. The new models are made by Fischer in the Ukraine. They don’t have a sign “Made in ….”. In addition they have a very small sticker at the rear part “quality control passed” and the construction differs a lot to the models, which were made by Blizzard (Blizzard used in many models foam, known as “Iso Core”, – except in the Baltoro ski – instead of a wood core!)…

  14. Lukas January 12th, 2015 3:38 pm
  15. Jamie Laidlaw January 12th, 2015 4:13 pm

    Several of the skis are very close in dimension but extremely different in construction and price. One line of skis is constructed with carbon and paulownia while the more budget line of skis is constructed with glass and poplar. Dynafit didn’t want to make two different skis with two different constructions in the same dimensions, so they altered the dimensions slightly to create an obvious distinction between the two lines. Essentially a Seven Summits is a budget oriented, glass version of the Nanga. Don’t be fooled though, if weight isn’t your primary concern, the glass skis are smoother, more forgiving and ski very well. They’re the sleepers in the line up. If you prefer the high strung thoroughbred go carbon!

  16. Lou Dawson 2 January 12th, 2015 10:18 pm

    Just to add to the confusion, I’m told here that Fischer makes (or will be making) all skis in Austria at the large Fischer factory near Salzburg. If they make any skis in the Ukraine, perhaps that will allow some of the hackers there who constantly attack WildSnow to get a new job. Lou

  17. Base Camp January 13th, 2015 8:12 am

    The Baltoro has been the shop favorite & best seller for us since we first discoved it four years ago – Perfect for all ski conditons that we get in Vermont! It was a Euro only ski for this season, but we were able to bring a bunch into the States THIS year because of our repeated commitment to this ski (and we still have a few in stock!)

  18. Looking for skis January 14th, 2015 4:57 am

    Great review and skis. But too expensive for me 🙁

  19. Tim Hannifin January 31st, 2015 8:02 am

    I am a swap meet ski buyer for the most part. It is neat to hear how the latest and greatest work. I like to keep my eyes open for the best skis. I sure enjoy and could not have near as much fun without info from wild ski.
    GOD Bless You All
    Tim





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