Let the (Smart) Games Begin

Post by WildSnow.com blogger | July 17, 2013      

Update: I added some app evaluation links below, including Trimble and Backcountry Navigator Pro. Galaxy Note phone is working super well. It feels like marriage, when you know you’ve found “the one.” I took the battery out today to test for swapping in the field, easy but would need to be done in a dry environment as doing so exposes the micro SD and SIM cards. An external battery pack might be a better option, but so kludgy with a cord…the games continue.

I may be involved in a web publishing project that focuses on mapping. So I ramped up my GPS experiments. Focus is now on smartphones, which ones work for “real” backcountry GPS use?

Samsung Galaxy Note 2, in service as GPS mapping device.

Samsung Galaxy Note 2, in service as GPS mapping device.

1. Battery Life
2. Screen visibility
3. Use in cold temperatures, possibly with gloves.
4. Works in Europe, with good European maps.
5. Moisture resistance.
6. Overall durability (and available waterproof cases).

Larger screens are better. Battery life is a huge issue. Those two concerns led me through a Motorola Razr HD Max (amazing battery, poor screen viz in bright light) to a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Now we’re talking. Slightly better screen visibility in bright outdoor ambient light, and the huge LCD (5.5 inch diagonal) is the kind of form factor I’ve long felt was much more appropriate for real-world map use than anything smaller — especially the fingernail sized screens on nearly all hand-held GPS units.

More, Galaxy has a stylus that allows super precise and quick waypoint creation, instead of the blunt finger “move the waypoint” game you’ll play with a smaller screen and fingertip. More, the stylus might be key to precision while wearing gloves.

I just finished my first test of the Galaxy battery life. Definitely good, though I wish they’d added 10 more grams of lithium. Saving grace: Galaxy has battery you can swap in the field, so you can carry a spare or two. The unit has virtually no moisture resistance (evidenced by how easy it is to swap battery), so the waterproof case will make or break this evaluation. (Samsung Galaxy S4 Active is waterproof, as are the Casio G’Zone offerings, so those might be the fallback if Galaxy Note with case is just too huge and heavy).

Comment suggestions on GPS/map apps appreciated. At this time I’m running two applications:

US Topo Maps Pro, clean and simple, but has trouble with finger swipe zooming. Uses raster USGS maps that are slow to load but in many cases more accurate and have more information than efficient vector maps such as Google terrain view.

Gaia GPS, more features and persistent zoom, but might be overly complex and perhaps use more battery. Uses slow loading USGS raster maps by default, but might have a way to use Google terrain view topo maps (again, vector based and super efficient).

Polaris Navivation, free and has killer GPS control features that allow you to do things like changing the sampling rate of your GPS to save battery. But for the life of me I couldn’t figure out how to get it to use topo maps, nor pre-load cache map sets for use without data connection. I emailed their tech support, they said none of their map layers have topo lines, but they may add in a software update (a common rejoinder I’m hearing when I catch various app companies blatantly lacking what should be a basic feature in any nav app). In a word, probably a more “urban” geek app than backcountry oriented.

Backcountry Navigator Pro, recommended by readers here, I’m impressed so far but wondering how well it works for creating routes on the fly. I want something that allows me to draw a track/route with my Galaxy Note stylus instead of tediously making 30 waypoints, then connecting them.

Trimble Outdoors Elite, these guys are part of a big publicly traded GPS company, that can have advantages — or result in corporate inertia. Integration with their website is cool; you can publish routes (they make money off that with associated advertising) or you can keep your routes private. I’m looking forward to a full evaluation of Trimble as it could be the one.

Overall, it is clear that smartphones are beginning to hammer the coffin nails of archaic stand-alone GPS units, same as they’ve decimated the point-and-shoot camera market. More later folks about the phones and the apps, after we wring this thing out.


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43 Responses to “Let the (Smart) Games Begin”

  1. Tom Gos July 17th, 2013 9:23 am


    I’ve been using my older Motorola Droid X with GPS apps for the last several years with generally good experiences. Battery life is helped tremendously by making sure I switch to airplane mode before I’m out of cell signal. I’m using two mapping apps:
    1)Trimble Outdoor Navigator Pro. Simple, seems best for recording tracks and trip data, and viewing my location on map.
    2) BackCountry Navigator Pro. More feature rich, better for acutal navigation using waypoints and bearings. UI seems closer to a handheld GPS unit. Also more complex to use than the Trimble app.

    Generally I’m pretty happy using my phone in place of my Garmin except with regard to battery life. I’m also using an Otterbox case, which seems to make the phone durable enough for backcountry use (but not truly waterproof) but also makes it difficult to swap out batteries.

    Definitely looking forward to when smartphones have little fuel cells that provide months of battery life.

  2. Dave July 17th, 2013 9:45 am

    I use the Avenza PDF maps app (free), which is great, cause you can download all the USGS quads for free, make you own maps and put them on there, etc. I work as a biologist, with lots of fieldwork mapping habitat, springs, nests, etc. We carry pricey ($1,500) GPS units with 10 cm accuracy for all the detailed mapping, but everyone of us uses the Avenza app on our iPhones for navigation as the maps, screen resolution, and quickness of the phones is vastly superior. Battery life isn’t great if you are within cell phone reception, but if you are out of range the GPS still functions great and without the phone always communicating with the cell phone network, I can go all day on 50% battery.

  3. Clyde July 17th, 2013 9:50 am

    Be sure to test in areas where there is no cell service to update maps as you move into new territory. If the apps let you pre-download high-res files, how much does that cost and how much memory does it eat? Can you enter routes in advance using mapping software on a computer? Store routes for later use? Also compare GPS sensitivity of smart phone vs dedicated receiver under green trees, narrow canyon, etc. Smart phones sure get hot when using GPS and maps, so does enclosing in waterproof case cause problems? How is screen viewing with polarized sunglasses too?

  4. RobinB July 17th, 2013 11:08 am

    Locus Maps coupled with mapc2mapc lets you use basically any map format you can think of. Locus also lets you cache from Google and other online maps.

  5. water July 17th, 2013 1:14 pm

    Sounds like there is a range of free map-aggregating software (for desktop/laptop) that can be ported to the smart phone along with apps that give you what you want.

    Other than offering a donation however it seems paying for anything is as outdated as the stand-alone-gps is becoming.

    RMaps has been great. Can download any maps for offline use getting detailed zoom level. Simple interface, excellent tracking. I’ve found some of the more complex programs (OruxMaps) to just have too much going on–most of the time I just need a quick check of where I’m at and where I’ve been–I don’t need to geocache or do track-back or anything. RMaps is great for the simplicity

    Then a tool called GPS Status is somwhat nice for GPS use if you like to just use waypoints and basic stuff not looking at a map. It is a very small free program.

  6. Jim July 17th, 2013 1:44 pm

    The Otter Defender is pretty good water resistance for Note 2. I’ve taken it touring a number of times and its worked pretty well.

  7. AndyC July 17th, 2013 2:22 pm

    Since there is no cell coverage (thus the phone and internet are not available) around here, I use a higher end Garmin. But a friend of mine develops apps for smart phones that I think hold great promise for smart phone users. For example, I’m on ski patrol at largest non-profit XC/snowshoe area in WA. He developed an app for free that allows visitors to see the trails, huts, terrain, and their location on their smart phone.

    As a volunteer service at the request of the park Supt., I got the app developer and 3 other GPS experts to come together for free to work on a map to be followed by a smart phone app for novice snowshoers in the Paradise area of Mt. Rainier NP that provided relatively safe snowshoeing routes with key terrain features and shaded topo (we’ve had several deaths and multiple people getting lost or disoriented using the park’s crude photocopied maps). The cell phone app would be of great utility in assisting snowshoers in making crux moves in conditions of poor visibility. I got the team in touch/conference calls–email contact and they provided the park with a draft map; there were some major bureaucratic concerns on the part of the park, I don’t know if anything came of it.

    But the utility of smart phones for even inexperienced bc travelers is great, even greater than that of a sophisticated GPS (that a lot of people just won’t learn to use). An army ranger type demonstrated the utility of the Garmin Rhino to our ski patrol–great tool providing good radio contact, ability to track where your other party members, and ability to send GPS locations via a click of the button; unfortunately a little too expensive for most volunteers and the nicest features not useful in most members don’t have them.

  8. Lou Dawson July 17th, 2013 3:12 pm

    Clyde, indeed, we’ve got plenty of places to test with no cell tower access, so the GPS will be standalone. That said, it’s possible on this phone to turn off the cell signal assisted GPS and only use the satellite GPS chip/antenna, so that makes testing easier while in town.

    All, super suggestions and comments, worthy of the WildSnower cadre of backcountry fanatics!


  9. Morgan V July 17th, 2013 4:24 pm

    I’ve found BackCountry Navigator PRO GPS (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.crittermap.backcountrynavigator.license) to work well for me in New Zealand. It supports a wide range of map sources, and it allows you to pre-fetch maps for offline use.

  10. Andrew July 17th, 2013 6:00 pm

    Another vote for backcountry navigator pro also – I’ve used it for two years. I’m not touring in very technical terrain so take my words with a grain of salt, but it’s a great app. I can tour all day and still have battery once I make it back to the truck – it has options for offline maps so you can use your device without any signal (or in airplane mode with gps on to save battery). Even the statistics it can churn out, while not necessarily accurate, are nice to have.

  11. Mac July 17th, 2013 6:03 pm

    Personally, I am not a big fan of digital maps for actual backcountry use, altough I can appreciate their potential to avoid the issues of a) carrying multiple map sheets and b) always being on the join of two map sheets.

    All digital navigational aids (including GPS units & especially digital maps) should always play second fiddle to, and carried in addtion to a usefully scaled topo map sheet and a compass (along with the knowledge to use them).

    I’d bet my house that if anyone accidentally dropped their navigation aid onto some rocks, they would much rather have the old school version than the “smart” variety!

    In my humble opinon, I could suggest that:

    1. Digital navigation devices (espicially smart phones & apps) = toys.

    2. Map and compass = tools.

  12. Jernej July 18th, 2013 12:11 am

    I use Maverick on my phone. Lets you choose many different map sources and does pretty much everything you need.

  13. Colin W July 18th, 2013 12:59 am

    Razr Maxx here. Bought for the battery life, Gorilla Glass/Kevlar back, and the fact that Motorolas get better reception than Samsung on the same network. Moto’s been building radios since the 30s.

    Use Locus and Oruxmaps.

  14. Lou Dawson July 18th, 2013 7:35 am

    Colin, I like Motorola as well, but as I mentioned in the blog post I tried a Razr Maxx but ended up with the Samsung Galaxy Note 2. I don’t notice any degradation in signal sensitivity and it’s slightly better in bright ambient light; the main reason I switched.

    Razr has amazing battery life, but the Galaxy does fine and has a user swappable battery so you can carry a spare, and of course nearly any phone will need an auxiliary battery pack for extended use, just as a handheld GPS will need batteries.

    Any big LCD turned on all day, with a GPS chip, is going to use lots of electricity.

    One thing that I’m intrigued by at the moment is that some of the GPS apps (or built-in phone settings, I can’t remember which) allow you to adjust the sampling rate of the GPS chip, which can save a bunch of power in situations where you don’t have to have the location icon moving perfectly in sync with yourself, but rather with a slight delay.

    Research continues!

  15. Dave Field July 18th, 2013 9:31 am

    Too bad apple doesn’t make the wifi version of thier ipad (or mini) with a GPS chip. I imagine that if/when there is a small tablet form out there that has decent GPS capabilities that it will be a category killer for the consumer gps units and their awkward interface and postage stamp screens.

  16. Lou Dawson July 18th, 2013 9:33 am

    Folks, feel free to publish links for your favorite apps. (That is unless you work for the company) (grin)

    I’m testing more apps today.

  17. xav July 18th, 2013 9:59 am

    ViewRanger (www.viewranger.com) for me – easy to use and works with Open Maps.

  18. Lou Dawson July 18th, 2013 11:02 am

    Xav, does Open Maps have topographic maps? I’ve tried to use them (they’re available in lots of nav apps) but they seem pretty lame: slow loading and no topographic layer…. please let me know. Thanks, Lou

  19. Justin July 18th, 2013 12:18 pm

    Another vote for Locus pro. tried Gaia and BC navigator and settled on this one for its features. There is an add on to increase the number of maps that can be cached.

  20. xav July 18th, 2013 2:57 pm

    Yes, the Open Maps do have a topo layer – the one I’m using is the Open Cycle map. Once you cache them they work quite fast.

  21. Jesse July 18th, 2013 3:23 pm

    I like viewranger as well, since it can use Ordinance Survey maps, a must here in the UK.

    An actual swappable battery… I am jealous. Sometimes I wish my iPhone took AA’s

  22. Ji July 18th, 2013 6:08 pm

    For waterproofing I think saran (??) wrap would work. It’s very thin so wouldn’t disturb screen use, can completely seal – except for immersion – the phone for BC use, is incredibly cheap.

    For changing the battery / removing the cover I’d suggest doing it inside a hut / tent / rucsac depending on location.

  23. Wookie July 19th, 2013 2:44 am

    Anybody have a recommendation for an app that will work in Europe? I’ve never thought about it before – but this might be interesting to try out!

  24. Lou Dawson July 19th, 2013 6:21 am

    Backcountry Navigator Pro, in their list of available maps (most extensive I’ve seen yet), shows options for

    – All of Europe

    – Southern Europe

    – Western Europe

    – Northern Europe

    – Central Europe
    ——-Germany Digital Lanscape Server
    ——-Outdoor Active Germany
    ——-Outdoor Active Austria

    I’ve not tested yet, but European functionality is of course on my list of must-haves. I’ll add this to my needs list in the blog post, thanks Wookie. Lou

  25. clem July 19th, 2013 6:51 am

    Nice post 😉

    Let me suggest this PC software MOBAC (Mobile Atlas Creator) that allows you to prepare offline maps that can be later transferred to any smartphone. Maps can be prepared from many online sources, or from local cartographyc files that you may have on your pc (even scans of paper maps I think). Exported maps are compatible with a lot of gps apps for android and iphone. I used it a couple of times for transferring geological maps and georeferenced satellite images from arcgis to my old smartphone.

    As for smartphone apps, I was using OruxMaps for my geology experiments, but it was long time ago and the app changed a lot since then. I found the updated interface less intuitive and not so easy to use. Last winter I was looking for a replacement and found AlpineQuest, which looked nice. But in the end I just tested in my backyard, never used for real backcountry.

    You can cache maps from various online sources or build your own offline maps with the computer (MOBAC) and transfer to the phone.

    It’s on the play store, both a free “lite” version and a paid complete one.

  26. Seth Schmautz July 19th, 2013 8:18 am

    Just a quick note if any iPhone users are looking to do the same and haven’t figured out how to turn off all extraneous radios minus the GPS. You can turn off all radios (bluetooth, wi-fi) except the cellular radio which continues to draw your battery down.

    You can call your provider (Verizon for me), and have them help you set the SIM Pin (Settings>Phone>SIM Pin). Once the SIM Pin is set, reboot your iPhone. When it comes back up, don’t put your SIM Pin in at the prompt. The cellular radio will be turned off, and you can manually turn off the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth radios if you’re going to use the built in GPS. This cuts down on battery usage.

    When you are ready to turn your cell radio back on, just try to make a phone call. You’ll see a prompt where you can unlock your SIM, and you enter your pinat that time.

    As Lou mentioned, however, one of the bigger battery drains is the screen. I used my iPhone 5 a few weeks ago as my camera and GPS tracker (GAIA) and it lasted me approximately 9 hours before dying. I took a lot of pictures (lots of screen time), and forgot to turn off bluetooth and wi-fi, so I could have eeked more out if I had done this.

    Hope this helps!


  27. Rob July 19th, 2013 10:31 am

    BackCountry Navigator Pro has been great for me on Galaxy S3. ALso used Gaia on previous iphone.

    Kind of egarding the MOBAc software Does anyone know of method of creating way points/route on computer and then downloading/importing onto phone…. that would be fantastically useful.

  28. Mike July 19th, 2013 11:24 am

    What are your thoughts on a device like the Earl Tablet (meetearl.com)? I think Garmin has a similar tablet in the works, but the Earl has an interesting feature-set that theoretically could be very useful in BC skiing applications. (However, an E-Ink screen isn’t exactly designed for sub-freezing temperatures..)

    I have no stake in that company nor have bought the product, just came across the it a month or two ago and have been debating it’s usefulness since.

  29. Lou Dawson July 19th, 2013 12:11 pm

    Integration of desktop with handheld device is one of my key criteria. If you’re serious, you need to be able to create routes and tracks on a computer screen, quickly, for trip planning, then download to device. Or create on device, quickly and easily…. Most of the apps just have kludgy ways to make and eventually connect waypoints. Lou

  30. TK July 19th, 2013 2:01 pm

    Using Topo Maps on my iphone and it works pretty well, but agree with Mac above on the functionality of everything out there. Sure, there are some great programs listed and the devices have become de rigeur but knowing how to triangulate on a plain old quad will always save your bacon when batteries run out.

  31. Rob July 19th, 2013 4:15 pm

    looking further at MOBAC it seems that this will play nice between PC and Phone. being able to plot way points on big screen with mouse and keyboard rather than with a finger tip may mean it guets used much more.. need to play with it some more..

  32. Jim July 22nd, 2013 5:29 pm

    So far I have tried Gaia, Topo Maps, AllTrails, Trails, GPS Trails Pro, EveryTrail Pro, ViewRanger (still installed) Trimble, AccurTerra and MotionX-GPS (since removed). Google Earth is worth having on the phone as well, but you need a connection (amazing how much connection there often is above treeline).

    So far Gaia has the best combination of the ability to download maps (free), ease of use, ability to change base maps (USGS Topo, USGS aerial, OpenCycle, OpenStreet, USFS Raster, etc) battery use and cost.

    Compared to my dedicated garmin (Oregon 450T) the screen is much better, the interface works better but the battery life is shorter (solved by a extended battery case – mophie air for me but they have a waterproof one too).

    Inputting a route on the iphone itself is a pain (fingers are too blunt) but as part of a digital navigation system using a laptop based mapping program (Topo!, BaseCamp, ExpertGPS, etc) to create a route to be exported to the phone or gps works really well.

    You really need to know how to navigate using a map and compass to get the best use out of a gps. You don’t get the larger picture on the gps that you can with a paper topo map due to the smaller screen, but apps such as peak finder or peaks will help.

    I have tried Gaia on the ipad mini and it is nearly the perfect form factor (larger screen and better battery life, now if they would just make a waterproof ruggedized version) fits nicely in my parka’s chest pocket, away from the avy beacon in my pants pocket. Now if they would just make a single device with beacon, gps, phone and camera I could get rid of another device (well 3 out of 4 isn’t too bad)

    The only comparable gps app for an android phone is Backcountry Navigator but Gaia runs on android as well

  33. Lou Dawson July 22nd, 2013 7:49 pm

    Nice Jim! Thanks!

    In specific, what’s your opinion of Trimble? I’m looking for something that has a good integration with online website for creating routes, storing them, and sharing them by embedding on website…. Thanks, Lou

  34. Terry July 22nd, 2013 8:23 pm

    For Mac/iPhone users, check out MacGPS Pro & iHikeGPS for desktop and iPhone integration of tracks, waypoints and routes. http://www.macgpspro.com/

    The tracking is fun for logging velocities, timing and vertical.

    Also sometimes useful with a fun factor is Theodolite by Hunter Research: http://hunter.pairsite.com/theodolite/ It will measure slope angles and photo locations and bearings towards features.

  35. Terry July 22nd, 2013 9:21 pm

    I forgot to add to above from the iHikeGPS instructions: http://www.ihikegps.com/appInstructions.html there are some useful tips on extending iPhone battery life.

  36. Jim July 23rd, 2013 1:48 pm

    Lou, the Trimble interface is well designed and works well – but so do the best of the rest. I’d say the better authors are all looking at each others work and implementing the best features. The problem for me was the combination of initial cost, an additional monthly cost needed to get access to all of the features plus the cost of individual downloadable maps. You can buy annual subscriptions and larger map downloads to save some money. But since the base maps (US, Canadian or Europe) all appear to be free and I generally can’t find any “proprietary enhancements” – so I didn’t keep Trimble on my iphone.

    I generally start with the best map I can find and work up from there. Because Garmin was the first in backcounty gps space and the user community is the largest, they have the best overlays at present. check out the NW Trails and NW Snow Trails overlays at http://www.switchbacks.com for the type of user updates that can be added to the base topo map layer. Then the updated map is used to generate your route which is then exported to to your gps

  37. afox August 5th, 2013 1:35 pm

    Ive been using android devices for GPS backcountry navigation since android was released. I also have used GPS for work for almost 20 years and teach GPS courses. A couple of major points that Lou hit on but I dont think emphasized enough:

    -A device that doesn’t allow users to swap batteries easily (eg Iphone) is pretty useless for back country GPS navigation. No matter what your hardware/setings using a large color display and GPS eats batteries, thankfully there are many options for android devices that allow users to snap the back cover off and pop in a fresh battery. Battery prices are very reasonable for most of these phones. For my motorola photon OEM batteries are around $7 each. An out of phone charger (similar to a camera battery charger) is also essential and are cheap for most phones.

    -A device that can’t use GPS in airplane mode is useless for back country navigation. The Iphone workaround above seems cumbersome. Every android phone ive used has no problems using GPS in airplane mode.

    -An app that downloads maps to the phone prior to heading into the backcountry is essential. I use backcountry navigator, its great. GAIA is pretty good too. I wouldn’t pay Trimble for anything after what they did with MyTopo. I haven’t seen an app with navigation features as smooth as a dedicated garmin unit but the mapping ability more than makes up for that.

    -A snack size ziplock bag makes a perfect “drybag” for most smartphones. The touchscreens work perfectly thru a ziplock bag. Simply replace when they get worn.

  38. Jim August 5th, 2013 4:18 pm

    I think the Airplane mode was an FAA mandated toggle for turning everything that can transmit off. On the iphone, evidently the phone transmitter and gps receiver are in the same chip, so they both get toggled off. Most android phones use separate chips and gps reception is not included in the toggle off.

    But the much same effect (on battery use) can be achieved by turning off wifi, bluetooth and cellular data. If you really want to turn the phone function off too, use the SIM pin function and reboot. (works for ATT phones, not sure about the non-SIM Verizon phones)

    More battery power saving can be achieved by lowering the screen brightness and being sure that no apps are running in the background. Keeping the phone warm helps too

    Doing the above plus turning the phone entirely off while in camp and at night, is good enough for 3 days of recording routes/tracks, lots more if just checking locations – after that I need a battery pack – pick your convenience/price point, there are lots of options

  39. afox August 5th, 2013 4:51 pm

    The ability to swap out batteries in smartphones is not only for back country GPS navigation. When using my smartphone as its intended to be used: turn by turn driving navigation, using the internet, streaming video, playing music, etc I can go thru one battery in 6 hours of “heavy” use. I travel with a couple of charged batteries and when one dies I simply pop in a new one. I dont have to constantly find a place to plug my phone in when traveling. I recently went on a weeklong bike ride accross Iowa (Ragbrai), camping every nite in small towns finding a place to charge a phone was a nightmare. I brought 7 batteries for my phone and used one per day and used every feature of my phone to my hearts content. And all of this is available at a price point hundreds below that of an Iphone.

  40. Jim August 5th, 2013 6:36 pm

    That is a nice feature, and I have changed enough batteries in my garmin to know it works. I recently ran into a women who spent 90 days biking across the country, she had a spinpower generator on her bike, and never had to worry about power. Others are using solar chargers to accomplish the same thing.

  41. Ji November 29th, 2013 10:27 pm

    Just got my new android phone a couple of weeks ago and have been searching round for useful backcountry apps and discovered an amazing one today. Simply called custom maps it allows you to take an image and overlay your GPS derived location. Haven’t tried it in the wild but looks amazing useful for taking guidebook maps and making them “smart”. Map creation from a photograph was incredibly quick and easy. Maybe 5-10 minutes.

  42. Matt December 19th, 2013 4:48 pm

    I can’t believe I have not seen anyone mention Maprika!

    It is a very user friendly map app that uses google maps, google sattelite, usgs topos and others with cell service and allows you to easily download a portion of any of the above for use off-line PLUS has a large and growing database of pre-made maps for download for use off-line.

    Since it allows users to create and upload maps, the selection is growing rapidly. This feature allows anyone to use any picture file (like a pdf of a map file) and associate it with GPS points and upload it. They have already done this for most ski area lift maps which is kind of their niche.

    It also has a great feature where you can easily share your location with friends – very useful for keeping the party together. That feature does require a data connection so is only available where you can get service. Within that you can create a “meeting” to tell everyone in your party when and where to meet which will of course show up on the map.

    Of course you can do the usual stuff like create a track of where you have been, load on a pre-made track from someone else or from your favorite mapping software, and use waypoints etc.

    I am definitely a fan of Maprika and hope everyone starts using it and making more of those custom maps for me to download!

  43. Jim June 19th, 2014 9:09 am

    My two cents worth. Walking on similar paths.

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