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	<title>Comments on: Backcountry Access Link 2-Way Radio a Winner</title>
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		<title>By: Lou Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, the problem is that FRS/GMRS has become ubiquitous. That&#039;s why we&#039;re running with that. I still use a ham set once in a while, but most of the time I just use a Motorola blister pack FRS because it&#039;s so much easier programming in the channel and  quiet code combos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, the problem is that FRS/GMRS has become ubiquitous. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re running with that. I still use a ham set once in a while, but most of the time I just use a Motorola blister pack FRS because it&#8217;s so much easier programming in the channel and  quiet code combos.</p>
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		<title>By: John Gloor</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gloor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, do you have any opinions on the MURS radios?  There are not a lot of channels, but user conflicts would be uncommon BC skiing I would think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, do you have any opinions on the MURS radios?  There are not a lot of channels, but user conflicts would be uncommon BC skiing I would think</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, enforcement is zero, and impossible in most situations. It appears the regulation is on the books in case FRS/GMRS gets abused, and so the FCC has something they can use to bust folks for commercial use if that gets out of hand. Interestingly, it is also illegal to use the FRS/GMRS radios for commercial use, but they&#039;ve become the defacto standard for everyone from highway flagging companies to backcountry guides. Typical over-regulation and under-enforcement. The kind of thing that makes a Libertarian out of people (grin).

Considering above, and the fact that you&#039;ll still encounter all sorts of needs for frequencies when you&#039;re traveling, owning and mastering a dual band ham type HT might be the best choice, but doing so is expensive and a hassle.  Example: When we got the info sheet from Valhalla Lodge in Canada, right there on the sheet they had their commercial frequency and recommended the client bring a radio for that channel. It is not a freq you get in an FR/GMRS radio, so I brought one of our ham sets up there and it worked perfectly for the situation. Another person up there also had a ham set with all frequencies programmed in.

Gloor, what&#039;s ironic about FRS/GMRS performance is that if they sold those radios with a removable antenna, the aftermarket would step in with better quality and higher gain antennas that could easily bump up performance. But the FCC regs for how the radios are made require the antenna to be fixed. Modders try to get around this, but it&#039;s tough. I&#039;d suggest to BCA that they make their antenna lugs on the circuit board easily worked with, so modders can install a removable antenna connector. Them making the circuit board have that capability, but not shouting it out, would be legal as far as I can tell from reading up on the regs.

Above is what many of the consumer ham radio makers do. They provide solder on the radio circuit board that can be cut to &quot;open&quot; the radio so it becomes useful for a full range of VHF and UHF frequencies. So long as they sell the radio with the full range disabled and the solder intacts, it&#039;s legal. There is a brisk aftermarket in radio mods to &quot;open&quot; these radios. You can send them away to experts, or find instructions on the web if you&#039;re handy with a soldering iron. I&#039;ve heard some of the radios might open with a keypad code as well. And so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, enforcement is zero, and impossible in most situations. It appears the regulation is on the books in case FRS/GMRS gets abused, and so the FCC has something they can use to bust folks for commercial use if that gets out of hand. Interestingly, it is also illegal to use the FRS/GMRS radios for commercial use, but they&#8217;ve become the defacto standard for everyone from highway flagging companies to backcountry guides. Typical over-regulation and under-enforcement. The kind of thing that makes a Libertarian out of people (grin).</p>
<p>Considering above, and the fact that you&#8217;ll still encounter all sorts of needs for frequencies when you&#8217;re traveling, owning and mastering a dual band ham type HT might be the best choice, but doing so is expensive and a hassle.  Example: When we got the info sheet from Valhalla Lodge in Canada, right there on the sheet they had their commercial frequency and recommended the client bring a radio for that channel. It is not a freq you get in an FR/GMRS radio, so I brought one of our ham sets up there and it worked perfectly for the situation. Another person up there also had a ham set with all frequencies programmed in.</p>
<p>Gloor, what&#8217;s ironic about FRS/GMRS performance is that if they sold those radios with a removable antenna, the aftermarket would step in with better quality and higher gain antennas that could easily bump up performance. But the FCC regs for how the radios are made require the antenna to be fixed. Modders try to get around this, but it&#8217;s tough. I&#8217;d suggest to BCA that they make their antenna lugs on the circuit board easily worked with, so modders can install a removable antenna connector. Them making the circuit board have that capability, but not shouting it out, would be legal as far as I can tell from reading up on the regs.</p>
<p>Above is what many of the consumer ham radio makers do. They provide solder on the radio circuit board that can be cut to &#8220;open&#8221; the radio so it becomes useful for a full range of VHF and UHF frequencies. So long as they sell the radio with the full range disabled and the solder intacts, it&#8217;s legal. There is a brisk aftermarket in radio mods to &#8220;open&#8221; these radios. You can send them away to experts, or find instructions on the web if you&#8217;re handy with a soldering iron. I&#8217;ve heard some of the radios might open with a keypad code as well. And so on.</p>
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		<title>By: John Gloor</title>
		<link>http://www.wildsnow.com/9313/link-radio-backcountry-access-2-way/#comment-50466</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gloor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what are the odds one would be busted using a GMRS frequency without a license, and what is the penalty?  How much is a license,  I have been pretty disappointed with the Motorola talk-about series of radios and would love a radio with a longer range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what are the odds one would be busted using a GMRS frequency without a license, and what is the penalty?  How much is a license,  I have been pretty disappointed with the Motorola talk-about series of radios and would love a radio with a longer range.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou, you talked above about how modifying FRS radios into &quot;ham&quot; radios was illegal. I just wanted to point out an oft missed point with these radios, in that using the GMRS signals without an FCC license is also illegal.  http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou, you talked above about how modifying FRS radios into &#8220;ham&#8221; radios was illegal. I just wanted to point out an oft missed point with these radios, in that using the GMRS signals without an FCC license is also illegal.  <a href="http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs" rel="nofollow">http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs</a></p>
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