Comments on: PSA: Hans Sarri Memorial Fund Exploration Grant — for ski mountaineers! http://www.wildsnow.com/921/psa-hans-sarri-memorial-fund-exploration-grant-for-ski-mountaineers/ Backcountry Skiing Snowboard Telemark Snowsports Information News Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:15:12 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Andrew http://www.wildsnow.com/921/psa-hans-sarri-memorial-fund-exploration-grant-for-ski-mountaineers/comment-page-1/#comment-7139 Andrew Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:00:54 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=921#comment-7139 Hi Charlie, This stipulation is at the Board of Directors discretion and is there mainly to cover grant funds which are vastly misused. The review committee is made up of ski mountaineers who understand that it is not always possible or safe to ski your intended line. That said, the Hans Fund Grant gives away a substantial amount of money and there needs to be some guarantee on their part that a person won't write a completely fictitious grant application with no intention actually doing it, and then buy a seasons pass at his local resort instead. Andrew Hi Charlie,

This stipulation is at the Board of Directors discretion and is there mainly to cover grant funds which are vastly misused. The review committee is made up of ski mountaineers who understand that it is not always possible or safe to ski your intended line. That said, the Hans Fund Grant gives away a substantial amount of money and there needs to be some guarantee on their part that a person won’t write a completely fictitious grant application with no intention actually doing it, and then buy a seasons pass at his local resort instead.

Andrew

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/921/psa-hans-sarri-memorial-fund-exploration-grant-for-ski-mountaineers/comment-page-1/#comment-7138 Lou Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:56:42 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=921#comment-7138 Andrew, clarification for Charlie? Andrew, clarification for Charlie?

]]> By: Charlie http://www.wildsnow.com/921/psa-hans-sarri-memorial-fund-exploration-grant-for-ski-mountaineers/comment-page-1/#comment-7137 Charlie Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:18:26 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=921#comment-7137 Odd that for a safety-oriented grant that you'll have to return the money if the objective doesn't go. ("If any of the grant objectives are canceled or significantly changed (i.e. a new descent on Denali turns into heli time around Valdez) all funds and materials must be returned and repaid to the HSMF.") There's certainly a wide-open range of interpretation there (what constitutes cancellation? Weather? Avy danger? Simply not even visiting base camp? What if the desired route's not in condition, but the sick 10,000' unskied line three ridges over is in prime shape?), but I don't think it's good to add the pressures of $15k of debt to mountain-oriented decision making. It's good to prevent the grant from being misused, but not good to add fiscal pressure where it might get someone hurt who might've otherwise altered their plans. Odd that for a safety-oriented grant that you’ll have to return the money if the objective doesn’t go. (”If any of the grant objectives are canceled or significantly changed (i.e. a new descent on Denali turns into heli time around Valdez) all funds and materials must be returned and repaid to the HSMF.”) There’s certainly a wide-open range of interpretation there (what constitutes cancellation? Weather? Avy danger? Simply not even visiting base camp? What if the desired route’s not in condition, but the sick 10,000′ unskied line three ridges over is in prime shape?), but I don’t think it’s good to add the pressures of $15k of debt to mountain-oriented decision making.

It’s good to prevent the grant from being misused, but not good to add fiscal pressure where it might get someone hurt who might’ve otherwise altered their plans.

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