Comments on: Updated: Mount St. Elias — Ski Descents, Red Bull film

By: Austin Porzak

Austin Porzak — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:59:37 +0000

The US version has just been released. I watch this film last night and really enjoyed it! Great job to all involved. Some amazing shots!

http://www.redbullshop.com/redbull/en/rb-media/mount-st-elias/v/M-110727?ctcCategory=rbm-dvd&pi=0

By: Kevin Starkey

Kevin Starkey — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:54:29 +0000

Hey StokeDoc: I came across your “pooping” this morning and found it ironic and humorous as I had to re-read this old article to gain an understanding of your perception which somehow I can’t comprehend. As soon as you began characterizing Lou as an American you lost credibility and painted yourself as a sniveler of uncertain origin. As a member of the international climbing community, I haven’t experienced the country specific attitude you are projecting, nor do I have a sense of your big mountain accomplishments, So please take your anti-American internationalism and stuff it in a poop pit at the base camp of your next 200 meter expedition!

By: StokeDoc

StokeDoc — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:25:56 +0000

Hey Lou,

why don’t you simply lay back and enjoy. We have the saying “you can discuss everything to death” (means: by constantly pooping on others accomplioshment.)

I understand that you as an American have a hard time accepting that Jon was not with the successful team, but that was not his fault.

He was
1) not mentally up to what the others too had gone through (and, more power to him, he made a wise decision as family man) and
2) also unfortunate due to a cultural mismatch, again, not his fault. Everyone could see his permanent stress talking brought jeopardy to the team, The need for permanent communication of distress, happiness, whatever (as form of personal reassurement) is widespread in America, less so in Europe, and definitely not in alpine teams that do stuff like that.

While you may feel personally insulted and have a hard time of premature American opt-out here (Jon did make a wise decision!) you don’t need to get a hard-on and poop other’s, here: non-Americans’, accomplishments.

There are people who do stuff lije that for the money (see Mt Everest tourism), and others because they are mountain people. The latter typically don’t have that much money but they don’t care too much about that, needless to say they need to make a living and industrial sponsors help them.

By: IES

IES — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:56:03 +0000

Just saw the flick this eve, and despite it’s professional production (and obviously huge budget), I was put off by the over-hype/dramatization. Also, as a first-hand witness (with Brian-in-slc who posted above) for the party who skied down the other side of St.E in 2000, I didn’t like the RedBull marketing machine taking credit for such a ‘first’ and ignoring this earlier descent. With a little more humility and fewer corporate dollars, my helmet would be off to anyone who is good/lucky enough just to get up that stupendous peak.
They did do a reasonable job of capturing the “fine” weather that St.E can produce!