KneeBinding Takes Ski Safety Beyond Helmets

15 Responses to “KneeBinding Takes Ski Safety Beyond Helmets”

1. Rick Howell July 26th, 2007 8:31 am

   Thank you for your kind words about KneeBinding ™. We really appreciate that you can see how much work has gone into this new technology. We will be introducing the new technology to a small, select-group of specialty ski retailers in Jan 08 at the trade level — for shipment to this select group of stores in the late Fall of ‘08. No bindings will be available for the general public before that. Meanwhile our testing on-slope and in the lab continues to be strong. As an engineer and former top downhiller (5th in the US, 29 FIS-points, years ago) — it is essential that this binding provide maximum retention + pass all international safety tests + provide the new knee mitigation feature, decisively.
   RH, Stowe, Vermont

2. Lou July 26th, 2007 8:57 am

   Hi Rick, cool the binding inventor drops by our corner of the web. I’m sure looking forward to checking out your binding, and have high hopes for it.

3. Clyde July 26th, 2007 10:08 am

   Sounds like the Line Reactor Binding by another name. Is this really new?

   In the AT world, Silvretta (before current owners) used to tout their lateral heel release as a knee-saver since the pivot is under the tibia. And several other plate bindings (Ramer, Salewa, etc) offered similar release with that kind of force but the plate stayed on your boot. All of that was before shaped skis though.

4. Lou July 26th, 2007 10:30 am

   Good point Clyde, I thought about that myself. I think the two bindings are somewhat different in their approach to the problem, so no, it’s not a copy of the Line Reactor. Time will tell. Should be very interesting.

   Having lateral release at the heel is certainly nothing new, but getting it to calibrate correctly so as to prevent pre-release at normal settings (without cranking it up) while still protecting against injury can be difficult.

   If any of you youngsters out there are curious about the Silvretta 404, museum display is here:

5. Ken Gross July 26th, 2007 2:35 pm

   Hey Lou,

   I have a pair of Green 404s mounted on TUA Escalators… I am wondering what the adjustment screw on the Toe Piece is for?? Seems to have three settings.

6. Lou July 26th, 2007 3:15 pm

   Ken, that screw changes the return spring tension, that’s the spring that gives resistance to the rising of the plate. Euros used to think this was necessary, then Ramer and Barthel (Dynafit) showed perhaps not so.

   BTW, I need some green 404s for the collection, so if you ever want to part with them…

7. laseranimal July 26th, 2007 6:58 pm

   the Tyrolia Mojo 15 alpine binding also has some form of lateral release from the heel(only 150* though) and its a rock solid binding as well

8. Terry July 29th, 2007 5:21 am

   Lou,
   Green or ‘optic yellow’ (think tennis balls)? I have a pair in a box I might consider giving up.

9. Rick Howell August 5th, 2007 4:59 am

   Thank you for the good dialog re the new KneeBinding technology that will mitigate skiing acl injuries.

   Regarding the points brought-up, above:

   There are many other alpine bindings in the past that have provided lateral heel release – including Americana, Alsop, Besser, Burt, Miller, Cober, Head, Gertsch, Moog, and others…. All failed because they all caused extreme inadvertent pre-release. What’s new about KneeBinding lateral heel release technology is that it does so with minimum pre-release (there will always be some pre-release – but the developer of KneeBinding raced at the CanAm level in downhill, years ago, and successfully competed in 80 mph events while still being able to twist-out at the finish line on his home-made bindings. Many of the same engineering principles that were utilized in those hand-made bindings were also deployed in the new KneeBinding technology. The heart of the KneeBinding patent (pending) specifically pertains to features that block pre-release even during extreme skiing – while still providing the new knee protection, simultaneously. The KneeBinding heel unit has a mechanical “Binary Filter” that decouples non-injurious skiing control forces from the signature loads that cause ACL injuries. This way, the binding is not “confused” – and therefore does not pre-release. KneeBinding has undergone extensive testing here in Stowe, Vermont with top skiers who have skied the binding hard – at settings that are 15% below chart-recommended-settings with no pre-releases after 500,000 cumulative vertical feet of skiing.

   KneeBinding is presently an alpine binding – so it is different from Silveretta and the others noted above, in that it pertains to all international safety standards governing alpine bindings (DIN/ISO).

   Regarding the differences between KneeBinding and the Tyrolia Diagonal – the Tyrolia Diagonal only releases laterally AFTER the heel moves upward: this mode of release can only occur during forward-twisting falls. It is estimated that 70% of all ACL injuries occurr during Phantom Foot skiing events – which involve the simultaneous combination of: (1) inward twisting of the upper leg relative to the foot; (2) abduction (the foot moves laterally outward relative to the knee) and; (3) rear-weighting. In a Phantom Foot event, the Tyrolia Diagonal heel cannot release laterally because the heel of the boot does not move upward during the rear-weighting component of this load-condition. KneeBinding releases laterally during Phantom Foot events (pure laterally). Again, its “Binary Filter” (and its other features – such as its progressive cams) block harmful pre-release events.

   KneeBinding is radically different from the Line Reactor because: (1) KneeBinding will meet all international safety standards for what a normal alpine binding must provide (whereas the Line Reactor failed all international safety standards); (2) KneeBinding is significantly lighter; (3) KneeBinding provides a lower boot-to-ski interface; (4) unlike the Line Reactor, KneeBinding is durable.

   Most significantly, KneeBinding is developed from over 30 years of combined efforts from previous ski binding industry work; utilizes advanced Axiomatic Engineering Principles developed by MIT and is refined from extensive on-slope testing here in Stowe, Vermont.

10. PJA September 22nd, 2007 1:19 pm

    How does the lateral heel release differ from the LOOK turntable heel design? Doesn’t the LOOK (and the TYR for that matter) release on a Phantom foot fall b/c of the upward toe pressure in a backward fall?

11. Rick Howell October 20th, 2007 7:24 am

    Re PJA’s question: KneeBinding ski bindings are different from Look and all other turntable bindings because KneeBinding provides lateral heel release, while all turntable bindings do not allow any boot to release laterally ‘through’ the side-lugs of the turntables. It is impossible for any boot to pass through the side lugs on all turntables.

    Re your other question about Tyrolia — as noted in the dialog above, the Tyrolia heel will only release laterally AFTER it moves upward. Phantom Foot ACL injury events involve backward-weighting. The Tyrolia Diagonal heel does nothing in this case.

    The upward pressure that is applied to all ski binding toe pieces during Phantom Foot events is dwarfed (relatively speaking) by the lateral heel release problem of all other bindings. When the heel of your boot is trapped, laterally, during a skiing Phantom Foot event, it doesn’t matter what is happening at the toe — just as in soccer, when your cleats under your heels are jamed, laterally, during ACL injuries – and there is certainly no ski binding toe piece holding the toe of your soccer shoe.

12. Jeremy March 20th, 2009 6:33 am

    Wish I had this binding last week when I tore my ACL skiing

13. Jon Moceri November 6th, 2009 1:45 pm

    I’ve torn both ACL’s, and so this topic interests me. In fact, I’m having KneeBindings placed on my everyday downhill ski, Head IM-88’s, this week.

    I ski Dynafit bindings on my randonee ski’s, and would love to see them tested on Rick Howell’s testing equipment.

    I skied Spademan bindings as a teenager, and never had an injury. Just lots of pre releases. BTW, I just finished watching the movie “Steep” and noticed that Bill Briggs used Spademan bindings on his epic first ski descent of the Grand Teton. It’s difficult to see, but those who are familiar with Spademans will recognized them on Bill Briggs skis here:

    http://www.themountainculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/briggsclimbing07001.jpg

    Jon

14. Lou November 6th, 2009 1:58 pm

    I have a feeling that Dynafit would rate well. Would love to see it tested. Any way to make that happen? I can send him up a pair of skis and boots…

15. Jon Moceri November 6th, 2009 2:44 pm

    That would be cool to see the test. If the Dynafit showed it could reduce ACL injuries, It would turn the whole binding industry upside down.

    Does anyone know of anybody who has torn their ACL while using Dynafit bindings? I personally don’t know of any.

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