Comments on: Port-a-hut is Ready — Just Add Snow http://www.wildsnow.com/8528/backcountry-skiing-tiny-house/ Backcountry Skiing Weblog Blog, FAQs, more, links and info about randonnee, telemark and backcountry ski mountaineering. Sat, 25 May 2013 06:07:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Lou Dawson http://www.wildsnow.com/8528/backcountry-skiing-tiny-house/#comment-48104 Lou Dawson Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:38:14 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=8528#comment-48104 Bruno, yeah, thanks for the insight, when I used to do some renovation I encountered 2x4 roofs in Crested Butte. Here in Carbondale our own 100 year old house had them, but they're bowed like crazy and I had to either sister or replace most of them... Plywood gussets help, but best is to take those 2x4s and make job-built trusses out of them with the correct spans. Those work great and are the lightest option, but don't allow an open cathedral ceiling effect. One theory I've always had is that the 2x4 roofs worked much better when they were NOT insulated very well, that way the snow melts and evaporates enough to keep a huge load from building up. Lou Bruno, yeah, thanks for the insight, when I used to do some renovation I encountered 2×4 roofs in Crested Butte. Here in Carbondale our own 100 year old house had them, but they’re bowed like crazy and I had to either sister or replace most of them… Plywood gussets help, but best is to take those 2x4s and make job-built trusses out of them with the correct spans. Those work great and are the lightest option, but don’t allow an open cathedral ceiling effect.

One theory I’ve always had is that the 2×4 roofs worked much better when they were NOT insulated very well, that way the snow melts and evaporates enough to keep a huge load from building up.

Lou

]]> By: Bruno http://www.wildsnow.com/8528/backcountry-skiing-tiny-house/#comment-48102 Bruno Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:58:19 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=8528#comment-48102 Just a little input on my experience with roof framing. If you want to lighten things up a bit I would say you certainly could. I once owned a home in Boulder County that was built in 1923, and many times I observed 4 feet of wet heavy snow load. It was framed with 2 x 4 rafters 24" on center and plywood gussets. No ridge beam. Roof was as straight as you could measure; no sway at all. Just a little input on my experience with roof framing. If you want to lighten things up a bit I would say you certainly could. I once owned a home in Boulder County that was built in 1923, and many times I observed 4 feet of wet heavy snow load. It was framed with 2 x 4 rafters 24″ on center and plywood gussets. No ridge beam. Roof was as straight as you could measure; no sway at all.

]]> By: Lou Dawson http://www.wildsnow.com/8528/backcountry-skiing-tiny-house/#comment-47806 Lou Dawson Mon, 05 Nov 2012 12:45:17 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=8528#comment-47806 Lots of good solutions to the human waste issue, it surprises me more of them are not used. Lots of good solutions to the human waste issue, it surprises me more of them are not used.

]]> By: Ed http://www.wildsnow.com/8528/backcountry-skiing-tiny-house/#comment-47802 Ed Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:28:09 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=8528#comment-47802 Regarding alpine waste management, there's been a lot of study devoted to the problem and solutions for use in huts. For example see: http://www.americanalpineclub.org/uploads/mce_uploads/Files/PDF/ACC-Water-Energy-Notes.pdf and http://www.beeshive.org/wp-content/uploads/alpine-hut-report.pdf I think it was 2012 or so, the Canadian Alpine Journal had a great summary of some current research - no doubt this has been published in peer reviewed literature as well. Regarding alpine waste management, there’s been a lot of study devoted to the problem and solutions for use in huts.
For example see:
http://www.americanalpineclub.org/uploads/mce_uploads/Files/PDF/ACC-Water-Energy-Notes.pdf
and
http://www.beeshive.org/wp-content/uploads/alpine-hut-report.pdf
I think it was 2012 or so, the Canadian Alpine Journal had a great summary of some current research – no doubt this has been published in peer reviewed literature as well.

]]> By: XXX_er http://www.wildsnow.com/8528/backcountry-skiing-tiny-house/#comment-47801 XXX_er Mon, 05 Nov 2012 02:56:16 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=8528#comment-47801 we are pretty far north eh but it sounds like you folks treat the animals > the people Switching over to poo A buddy of mine has an anaerobic digester at his ski lodge, the user just thro's a handful of bark/chips chips from the woodpile down the hole after every poop, it doesn't smell so bad like a regular outhouse and in the summer you just end up with soil coming out a trap door in the bottom of the building This is of course a permanent building and all but it sure makes a lot of sense compared to places where I have seen them flying barrels of poo out by chopper we are pretty far north eh but it sounds like you folks treat the animals > the people

Switching over to poo A buddy of mine has an anaerobic digester at his ski lodge, the user just thro’s a handful of bark/chips chips from the woodpile down the hole after every poop, it doesn’t smell so bad like a regular outhouse and in the summer you just end up with soil coming out a trap door in the bottom of the building

This is of course a permanent building and all but it sure makes a lot of sense compared to places where I have seen them flying barrels of poo out by chopper

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