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	<title>Comments on: Hut Shu Shootout &#8212; Lizards, Sportivas &#8212;  Crocs?</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apreciate the battle to save weight but not all alpine huts have an indoor toilet - and most other countries these are invariably some distance from the hut.

The last thing I want to do is have to put on damp ski boots (which should be drying by the stove) to obey the call of nature.  In 20 years of ski touring in Norway the best solution for me is the MEC hut bootee with waterproof cover (covers sadly no longer made but the Expedition Bootee is similar -405g per pair).  This has a knee high waterproof outer with drawstring top so postholing along a snowed in path to the outhouse is no problem.  

Also consider Forty Below who make some good booties (283g per pair ).

Crossing hard snow in a screaming blizzard is more of a challenge as there is no sole grip. Those of you who have skied the Haute Route will know that grip is especially important if visiting the toilet at the Vignettes hut (Switzerland) - its 10 metres along a icy path which runs along a cliff edge - one slip and its 1000 ft vertical down to the glacier.

Either way its better than a shoe with lots of holes when its well below zero outside. 

So you all  dont think I have a preoccupation with trips outside the hut - they also keep ypur feet warm when relaxing inside - cold air sits at floor level however much wood you throw in the stove  Also for people like me who dont get away often enough and so get blisters from AT or tele boots - soft shoes definitely score points in the evening.

On the question of appearance - Hut Bootees may not be cool looking but you will always have warm feet and they give kudos by suggesting that you only occasionally take the soft option of using a hut and camp / snowhole at other times.

Booties definitely fail as town wear - but that the only downside I can see.

Everytime I have left mine behind (usually on weight grounds) I have regretted it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apreciate the battle to save weight but not all alpine huts have an indoor toilet &#8211; and most other countries these are invariably some distance from the hut.</p>
<p>The last thing I want to do is have to put on damp ski boots (which should be drying by the stove) to obey the call of nature.  In 20 years of ski touring in Norway the best solution for me is the MEC hut bootee with waterproof cover (covers sadly no longer made but the Expedition Bootee is similar -405g per pair).  This has a knee high waterproof outer with drawstring top so postholing along a snowed in path to the outhouse is no problem.  </p>
<p>Also consider Forty Below who make some good booties (283g per pair ).</p>
<p>Crossing hard snow in a screaming blizzard is more of a challenge as there is no sole grip. Those of you who have skied the Haute Route will know that grip is especially important if visiting the toilet at the Vignettes hut (Switzerland) &#8211; its 10 metres along a icy path which runs along a cliff edge &#8211; one slip and its 1000 ft vertical down to the glacier.</p>
<p>Either way its better than a shoe with lots of holes when its well below zero outside. </p>
<p>So you all  dont think I have a preoccupation with trips outside the hut &#8211; they also keep ypur feet warm when relaxing inside &#8211; cold air sits at floor level however much wood you throw in the stove  Also for people like me who dont get away often enough and so get blisters from AT or tele boots &#8211; soft shoes definitely score points in the evening.</p>
<p>On the question of appearance &#8211; Hut Bootees may not be cool looking but you will always have warm feet and they give kudos by suggesting that you only occasionally take the soft option of using a hut and camp / snowhole at other times.</p>
<p>Booties definitely fail as town wear &#8211; but that the only downside I can see.</p>
<p>Everytime I have left mine behind (usually on weight grounds) I have regretted it.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff brown</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Spend around 3 to 5 weeks a year skiing through European huts in the spring. I use flip flops with a pair of fleece socks that have a slot between the big toe and the rest of the toes. By far the most comfortable, light and packable things I can find; however, not the best for walking through towns when snowy, sloppy or rainy. Then I skip the socks and condition my feet for lightly insulated TLT5 ski boots. I have also used five fingers yoga shoes with the injini toed socks. These rock for packing; however, not the easiest things to get into in the middle of the night for those multiple trips to the &quot;facilities&quot;. I can roll these with the socks into the small stuff bag the the BD coulior harness comes in.

Am intrigued by the Cross M&#039;s. Do they roll up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Spend around 3 to 5 weeks a year skiing through European huts in the spring. I use flip flops with a pair of fleece socks that have a slot between the big toe and the rest of the toes. By far the most comfortable, light and packable things I can find; however, not the best for walking through towns when snowy, sloppy or rainy. Then I skip the socks and condition my feet for lightly insulated TLT5 ski boots. I have also used five fingers yoga shoes with the injini toed socks. These rock for packing; however, not the easiest things to get into in the middle of the night for those multiple trips to the &#8220;facilities&#8221;. I can roll these with the socks into the small stuff bag the the BD coulior harness comes in.</p>
<p>Am intrigued by the Cross M&#8217;s. Do they roll up?</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, I evaluated a lot of water shoes, never found any that gave any significant weight savings. Lou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I evaluated a lot of water shoes, never found any that gave any significant weight savings. Lou</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a lightweight pair of water shoes?  Salomon techamphibians and similar are rather heavy, but I think there are some pairs that come in about a pound.  I have some Ahnu sandals like this.  The current equivalent may be the Ahnu Delta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a lightweight pair of water shoes?  Salomon techamphibians and similar are rather heavy, but I think there are some pairs that come in about a pound.  I have some Ahnu sandals like this.  The current equivalent may be the Ahnu Delta.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Worley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Worley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haiku, Crocs, and sweet-talking girls at the hut?  Hilarious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haiku, Crocs, and sweet-talking girls at the hut?  Hilarious!</p>
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