Comments on: Ultimate Direction PB Adventure Vest — The Future in Hydration http://www.wildsnow.com/7979/hydration-vest/ Backcountry Skiing Weblog Blog, FAQs, more, links and info about randonnee, telemark and backcountry ski mountaineering. Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:45:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: PB http://www.wildsnow.com/7979/hydration-vest/#comment-49504 PB Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:02:10 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=7979#comment-49504 There are so many features it's hard to highlight them all in a 3 minute video! A couple of things people might be puzzling about: -The vest is designed to be used with 2 bottles, and is sold with bottles. But, you can also use your own bladder. There is an opening to feed the bladder hose out of the pack compartment, and some little loops for routing the hose. -Because of the bellows design, there is a kind of "pocket" or sleeve between the zippered side pockets and the pack compartment. These "pockets" have velcro closures, but indeed they aren't super secure. This turned out to be a logical place to carry additional bottles, so we added a loop to go around the neck of a bottle that's stashed in there. -There are 2 small elastic loops hanging off the back of the pack compartment which were designed to secure trekking poles. I'm sure people will find ways to use these features that we haven't thought of! Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback. Happy trails, PB There are so many features it’s hard to highlight them all in a 3 minute video! A couple of things people might be puzzling about:

-The vest is designed to be used with 2 bottles, and is sold with bottles. But, you can also use your own bladder. There is an opening to feed the bladder hose out of the pack compartment, and some little loops for routing the hose.

-Because of the bellows design, there is a kind of “pocket” or sleeve between the zippered side pockets and the pack compartment. These “pockets” have velcro closures, but indeed they aren’t super secure. This turned out to be a logical place to carry additional bottles, so we added a loop to go around the neck of a bottle that’s stashed in there.

-There are 2 small elastic loops hanging off the back of the pack compartment which were designed to secure trekking poles.

I’m sure people will find ways to use these features that we haven’t thought of!

Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback.
Happy trails, PB

]]> By: Tetsu noguchi http://www.wildsnow.com/7979/hydration-vest/#comment-49495 Tetsu noguchi Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:13:47 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=7979#comment-49495 I don't know the Salomon XT though I'm sure it's great in its own right. I always find it funny that just because some people like one thing, they automatically think other competitive things are blah. There are many great minds, innovative thinkers, and anyone who puts the thought and care and passion into products that these comapnies do should be applauded. Maybe I'm just a softy, hehe I have run quite a bit with Nathan packs, both waist and vest, and when comparing the ultimate direction PB vest to the Nathan vests I have, frankly, the PB vest holds more and is lighter. I wish the side pockets were easier to get to and there are a few shock cord loops that i can't figure out the purpose of, that aren't explained well in the video. There are some smaller non-elastic loops thati also haven't figured out. Speaking of the side pockets, I had two smaller 10oz juice packs on a run and one fell out and was lost, so i wouldn't put valuable items in there. And the cell phone pockets is way too small. I'd prefer two top loading elastic cell phone and gps pockets as i use the lifeproof case on my iphone 5 and would never run without the case on. As it is, i have to use a barely there amphipod waist belt to carry my phone. With that said, for vests, i now prefer Ultimate Direction, for waist packs, i prefer Nathan as Ultimate Direction waist packs don't work for me. Rock on runners, and rock on passionate product designers! I don’t know the Salomon XT though I’m sure it’s great in its own right. I always find it funny that just because some people like one thing, they automatically think other competitive things are blah. There are many great minds, innovative thinkers, and anyone who puts the thought and care and passion into products that these comapnies do should be applauded. Maybe I’m just a softy, hehe

I have run quite a bit with Nathan packs, both waist and vest, and when comparing the ultimate direction PB vest to the Nathan vests I have, frankly, the PB vest holds more and is lighter. I wish the side pockets were easier to get to and there are a few shock cord loops that i can’t figure out the purpose of, that aren’t explained well in the video. There are some smaller non-elastic loops thati also haven’t figured out. Speaking of the side pockets, I had two smaller 10oz juice packs on a run and one fell out and was lost, so i wouldn’t put valuable items in there. And the cell phone pockets is way too small. I’d prefer two top loading elastic cell phone and gps pockets as i use the lifeproof case on my iphone 5 and would never run without the case on. As it is, i have to use a barely there amphipod waist belt to carry my phone.

With that said, for vests, i now prefer Ultimate Direction, for waist packs, i prefer Nathan as Ultimate Direction waist packs don’t work for me. Rock on runners, and rock on passionate product designers!

]]> By: Paul http://www.wildsnow.com/7979/hydration-vest/#comment-48644 Paul Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:25:28 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=7979#comment-48644 I have both the Salomon XT Skin Pro 5 Set Pack and the Ultimate Direction Scott Jurek vest and have put over 100 miles on both. The UD Scott Jurek is much better thought out with more unique storage features and almost twice the available storage space 5L vs 9.2L at less than half the weight 22oz vs 7.5oz! This pack was so much better thought out in terms of comfort and storage. The UD rides higher and is significantly more comfortable than the Salomon. Yes, they are both vests, have storage areas and carry bottles in the front but the similarity ends there. Just like every bladder pack has storage a bladder and pack straps but there are hundreds of different designs of those. What's your point? I have both the Salomon XT Skin Pro 5 Set Pack and the Ultimate Direction Scott Jurek vest and have put over 100 miles on both. The UD Scott Jurek is much better thought out with more unique storage features and almost twice the available storage space 5L vs 9.2L at less than half the weight 22oz vs 7.5oz! This pack was so much better thought out in terms of comfort and storage. The UD rides higher and is significantly more comfortable than the Salomon. Yes, they are both vests, have storage areas and carry bottles in the front but the similarity ends there. Just like every bladder pack has storage a bladder and pack straps but there are hundreds of different designs of those. What’s your point?

]]> By: blah http://www.wildsnow.com/7979/hydration-vest/#comment-46780 blah Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:24:13 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=7979#comment-46780 bottles fit in front of the salomon pack, as well as you don't have to remove to pack to store trekking poles. the published weight is deceiving because there are many parts of the pack that are removable to save weight. Regardless, the salomon one has been on the market for years. so, yes, this is a copy. bottles fit in front of the salomon pack, as well as you don’t have to remove to pack to store trekking poles. the published weight is deceiving because there are many parts of the pack that are removable to save weight. Regardless, the salomon one has been on the market for years. so, yes, this is a copy.

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