DPS Announces Skinny Skis


This post by WildSnow.com blogger  

Well, I guess this is our two days of DPS genuflection: absolution for our sin of not blogging enough about DPS. Today, I reprint their press materials and embed video regarding their new skinny planks. If I do say so myself, verrrry interesting. Perhaps they’re seeing some potential in the EU market? Or the DPS boys are getting older and tired of hauling around mega planks during ski tours?

Press release follows, lightly edited.
DPS is proud to announce the launch of the new Wailer 99 (121/99/108; 168cm, 176cm, 184cm) and Nina 99 (121/99/108; 168cm, 176cm) (the latter is the women’s version of the Wailer 99, in glacier blue). They are both 2012/13 products, available to order now, and shipping the first week of December 2011. Limited quantities exist due to the mid-season release.

The Wailer 99/Nina 99 is the Daily Driver, redefined. The Wailer 99/Nina 99 is set to become the new standard for all-mountain/all-condition shapes. Based on the award-winning Wailer 112RP platform, the Wailer 99 exhibits similar versatility in a narrower package. The Wailer 99/Nina 99 utilizes the Wailer 112′s 3-D PaddleTech Geometry™ -DPS’ original blend of rocker and variable sidecut. PaddleTech Geometry™ allows the skier to engage the Wailer 99/Nina 99′s slightly cambered 18m underfoot turn radius while charging g-loaded carves on harder snow. When the snow becomes mixed or soft, the skier draws on the gradually rockered paddle sections of the tip and tail to access longer, variable turn radii, slarves, and off-edge control. The Wailer 99/Nina 99 gives you the best of on-edge and off-edge performance, and the ability to get creative in the most versatile 100mm underfoot package ever designed.

These models are offered in limited quantities. They will sell out quickly. After sellout, the Wailer 99 or Nina 99 skis won’t be available until summer pre-order 2012. See our website for ordering.

Comments

29 Responses to “DPS Announces Skinny Skis”

  1. Todd November 10th, 2011 9:13 am

    Hey Lou.

    Question for you unrelated to your current post, but didn’t want to send you an email per your request on your website.

    I am looking at a pair of Dynafit TLT boots for light fast touring/skimo racing. Debating between the Performance and the Mountain. Both these boots on Dynafit’s website use the same exact description and the website lists the weight of the Performance as being only 15 grams lighter than the Mountain. Does not seem like enough of a weight difference to justify the price difference. Wondering if maybe there website has the weights wrong or what. Can you provide any insight to the weights of these boots and the other differences that exist between them?
    Thanks

  2. Jonathan Shefftz November 10th, 2011 9:20 am

    Skinny? That’s my idea of wide!
    I have to admit that I am tempted, although the website still lists the weight as “forthcoming” despite the ship date of only three weeks from now.

  3. marhal November 10th, 2011 9:27 am

    hey jonathan, the weight will be confirmed ASAP, but we prefered to take it off the final production skis, rather than the protos or engineered weight. so… yeah… i will update everyone on the actual weight in a couple days. but it will be pretty close to the updated manaslu. thanks!

  4. Jonathan Shefftz November 10th, 2011 9:31 am

    Spec weights based off of actual production runs — very admirable! (And very impressive if indeed at Manaslu weight but with a bit more girth.)

    @Todd: yes, the cf and pbax shells are indeed essentially the same weight. But the TF liner option is available for the mtn/pbx only in Europe, whereas in the U.S. the mtn/pbx is available only with the slightly heavier TF-X liner.

  5. Rob November 10th, 2011 9:38 am

    Isn’t the “Paddle Tech Geometry” what Voile has been doing in its Drifter/Charger line at about half the price? Please enlighten me if I’m wrong, but just sayin . . .

  6. Jon Moceri November 10th, 2011 9:43 am

    Blister gear review has a quick first look at the DPS Wailer 99.

    http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/first-look-2011-2012-dps-wailer-99-184cm

    Looks like it will be a hit for those who think that the DPS Wailer 112 is too fat for a touring ski.

  7. Xavier November 10th, 2011 9:49 am

    They could have just said:
    We copied the Rossi S7 when we made the 112 and now we’re going to copy the S3 as well.:wink

  8. Phil November 10th, 2011 10:00 am

    love the title of the blog post…very ‘Onion’ esque. Love the DPS.

  9. marhal November 10th, 2011 10:21 am

    @rob: the geometry in the voile charger/drifter is most similar to the DPS lotus 120/wailer 105 skis, the wailer 112/wailer 99 have a pretty different profile.

  10. Phil M November 10th, 2011 11:58 am

    Todd-

    As JS said, you can’t get the same liners in the Performance and Mountain in the US. My 26.0 Mountains with heavier liners are 5.00lb for the pair.

    Anyway, people are not jumping to the Performance for weight savings – they want the stiffness of the carbon cuff.

    Try both on and carpet-test the flex of each w/ and w/o the removable Grilamid tongues. In hindsight, if the carbon cuff was stiff enough that I could leave the tongues at home all the time, the lack of hassle might have been worth the coin. With the tongue in and the power strap secured, there’s plenty of beef for me in the Mountain cuff.

  11. tV November 10th, 2011 12:59 pm

    @ Xavier, not only is imitation the sincerest form of flattery, but where do you think Rossi got the S7 idea from? Or Armada the JJ? There are quite a few indies out there ahead of the pack, and the ideas flow back and forth and around & around. Ultimately it’s not about being “first,”as if only Rockshox can make bike shocks because they sold them first (or did they?). It’s about doing it WELL, with quality, durable materials, producing a strong ski for all kinds of riding. ;)

  12. Xavier November 10th, 2011 1:13 pm

    tV: agree on some of your points but DPS has had a tendency to promote their wares as not just revolutionary in terms of construction( pre-peg carbon which I agree they are entitled to) but also in terms of shape.

    Drake claims rocker…or is it just the use of the word rocker….semantics??
    It’s one thing to claim revolutionary construction but some of their propaganda has claimed shape as well.

    Everybody knows that the 138= carbon Spatula and that the 112=carbon S7.
    They should be more honest in their claims….. ” We take the best new shapes and skis produced by others and turn them into carbon”

  13. Xavier November 10th, 2011 1:14 pm

    Agree on some of your points but DPS has had a tendency to promote their wares as not just revolutionary in terms of construction( pre-peg carbon which I agree they are entitled to) but also in terms of shape.

    Drake claims rocker…or is it just the use of the word rocker….semantics??
    It’s one thing to claim revolutionary construction but some of their propaganda has claimed shape as well.

    Everybody knows that the 138= carbon Spatula
    They should be more honest in their claims….. ” We take the best new shapes and skis produced by others and turn them into carbon”

  14. Lou November 10th, 2011 2:16 pm

    Todd, to find a post related to TLT 5 boots, use the search bar above, and type in something like “TLT 5.” Lou

  15. Mark W November 10th, 2011 11:30 pm

    Jonathan, I’m in a similar boat regarding width. I ski an 88 waisted ski all the time (and it’s GASP! not rockered either). This Wailer 99 is super tempting, if only in my financial dreams.

  16. Jon Moceri November 11th, 2011 12:09 am

    @Mark W

    I have the DPS Wailer 112 and skied it hard all last season in the PNW. I had more fun skiing than a 50+ year old man should have.

    Yes, the DPS skis are expensive. But, if the DPS Wailer 99 is like the 112, it will really change your skiing. It’s all about having a bigger smile on your face.

    We don’t ski with leather boots, and long skis left over from the 10th Mountain Division. Embrace progress. The price is only a Starbucks coffee a day in extra cost.

    I don’t know how old your are, but when you are in the old folks home, you won’t be thinking, “I’m glad I didn’t spend the extra money on those skis.” Or as Warren Miller said, “If you don’t do it this year, you’ll be one year older when you do.”

    And for all the Veterans out there, thank you for your service. Happy Veterans Day.

  17. JonM November 11th, 2011 9:42 am

    Good to see that there is a 192cm version planned for us larger folk. I’m thinking that if you mount some Speed Superlights on them you would have a killer backcounty rig.

  18. Marshal Olson November 11th, 2011 12:07 pm

    for those that keep emailing me about weights (which is always welcome, of course!), we really want to weigh the final production ski, and i will post the actual verified weight asap… but i can say the the 178cm wailer 105 is 1560g (ie 100g lighter than a 182cm Dyna Stoke). the w99 will be right in there as well.

  19. Marshal Olson November 15th, 2011 4:04 pm

    for those that asked, the confirmed actual weight of a 184 pure wailer 99 is 1705g.

    i will post a 176cm weight as soon as i can verify it.

  20. Hal November 16th, 2011 5:52 pm

    How skinny is too skinny for Colorado powder days?

    I just ordered my Mestrale’s and Radical’s today (thanks for the great reviews on this site!), and chomping to make a ski purchase. I’m 6’0″ but only 148lbs, and eager to keep the weight down for skinning up. Not aggressive, just wanna have fun in the powder, stay in control and make turns in the aspens. Versatile would be nice, but not buying this for groomers. Is 99 enough to float, or would 112 be more fun?

    Also wondering if there someplace to demo the DPS line in Aspen or CB? Other skis I’m thinking about are the HI5, Voile Charger, Armada JJ or TST and maybe Volkl Nunataq (but the absence of camber scares me).

    Thanks!

  21. Lou November 16th, 2011 6:38 pm

    95 is the minimum for Colorado powder touring, 100 probably the average, much wider than 100 can be fun, but yes, extra weight to haul uphill, and when the snow starts to pile up on top of those fatties, they can get massive real quick…

  22. Brian November 16th, 2011 9:15 pm

    95 is the minimum? Really, Lou. I mean, I know you make your living doing this but that kind of commentary simply perpetuates the myths currently pervading every ski shop in America.

    Oh well, I guess that slows the herd down so there’s more to ski for those of us bringing skinny back.

  23. Bob Perlmutter November 16th, 2011 11:05 pm

    Hal, DPS skis will be available for retail and demo at two locations in Aspen this winter. The Ute Mountaineer in the Elks Building and Ajax Mountain Sports in the North Of Nell building across from the gondola. Can’t speak for CB. Enjoy!

  24. Hal November 16th, 2011 11:42 pm

    Thanks Bob – will be over to check them out. Know if anyone will have the Voile’s to compare?

    Why does the Wailer 105 seem to be skipped over in reviews? Is it an older technology compared to the 99 or 112? Seems like it could be a good powder backcountry ski and still versatile for someone who is lighter and not hard charging.

    Sounds like Lou and Brian think I should aim even slimmer. My early powder forays have been frustrating – much sinking and flailing. But I was on 72′s (Atomic MX9). So maybe something like the Vector at 96 would keep me floating?

  25. Andrew Winstanley November 17th, 2011 5:41 am

    Hal: the wailer 105 is my go-to touring stick for everything except the deepest pow days. It’s an outstanding ski for this purpose in my experience. Because it’s so torsionally rigid, it holds a great edge on icier conditions for a ski of that width, but the slightly rockered tip also floats pow and slices through other 3D snow. My only wishes for improvement would be a little more rocker in the tip and a squared off tail, both of which the 99 addresses. Because my 105s are holding up so well, the 99s will have to wait. I’m 5’7″, 140 pounds and own the 178 105s, skied with dynafits and TLT5 performances. Put together, my favorite touring rig ever.

  26. Marshal Olson November 18th, 2011 1:23 pm

    for those that asked, the confirmed weight on the 184cm wialer 99 hybrid is 2060g.

  27. Jonathan Shefftz November 21st, 2011 8:43 am

    @Marshal, the 1705g confirmed weight for the 184cm is certainly quite impressively light for a 99mm ski, but it’s coming out as heavier — well, okay, slightly less light is more accurate! — than the Wailer 105 in my calculator for the ratio of surface area to weight. (Blog post coming up soon on this calculator…) Any particular reason for this?

  28. Bob Perlmutter November 22nd, 2011 3:04 pm

    I was just over at Ajax Mountain Sports in the North of Nell Bldg. across from the Gondola in Aspen. They have the Wailer 99 in stock on the rack. Go fondle to your heart’s delight. I did!

  29. Boz December 2nd, 2011 2:51 pm

    after seeing a pair of the 99 carbons in the store last night (sponsored skiers pair) I closed my eyes and handed over my debit card. In the next week or so I will have a pair of the carbon wailer 99s..The look great, for the size they felt light, and on top of that the flex was stiff. If they ski as well as or similarly as good as the 112s then they will be come my do everything touring ski.

    Carbon boots, carbon skis carbon poles, “Its all about performance” except now I have the carbon frame…. (youtube “all about performance” if you dont get my attempt at being funny)

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