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	<title>Comments on: Moab Trip Report</title>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I can provide some amusement! After all, isn&#039;t that what blogs are for (grin)?

As for noise, we feel it&#039;s appropriate to drive a 4x4 on a designated 4x4 trail, while it&#039;s inappropriate to run a generator during a quiet evening camp. We also have no problem with RV generators running during the day, as we know they need to run them at some point. I don&#039;t see how that opinion is a high horse...unless you take a rather simplistic view of recreation impacts.

And speaking of opinions, indeed our family does many different forms of recreation. All have impacts. That&#039;s not going to keep me from expressing my opinion about such impacts. Whether it be horses we use eroding Wilderness trails or 4x4 trail spectators leaving their water bottles and beer cans behind, at some point we&#039;ll be discussing it here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I can provide some amusement! After all, isn&#8217;t that what blogs are for (grin)?</p>
<p>As for noise, we feel it&#8217;s appropriate to drive a 4&#215;4 on a designated 4&#215;4 trail, while it&#8217;s inappropriate to run a generator during a quiet evening camp. We also have no problem with RV generators running during the day, as we know they need to run them at some point. I don&#8217;t see how that opinion is a high horse&#8230;unless you take a rather simplistic view of recreation impacts.</p>
<p>And speaking of opinions, indeed our family does many different forms of recreation. All have impacts. That&#8217;s not going to keep me from expressing my opinion about such impacts. Whether it be horses we use eroding Wilderness trails or 4&#215;4 trail spectators leaving their water bottles and beer cans behind, at some point we&#8217;ll be discussing it here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who finds it amusing that Lou is complaining about noise in the desert campground the night before driving a 4x4 through the same area?  If you want peace and quiet, get off of the beaten path.

I enjoy the site, but get off of your high horse already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who finds it amusing that Lou is complaining about noise in the desert campground the night before driving a 4&#215;4 through the same area?  If you want peace and quiet, get off of the beaten path.</p>
<p>I enjoy the site, but get off of your high horse already!</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, I certainly do object to excessive rules and regulations. Even when they work in my favor I still find them suspect. On the other hand, like any person with half a brain I see the need for civilization to have laws and rules...

As for areas we agree on where certain recreational activities are banned, yep, that&#039;s controversial but it does get done. Like any democratic decision not everyone agrees on every nuance, but the areas exist. A good example is legal Wilderness. I like most of the legal Wilderness we have, though I happen to think we have enough and need a different land designation that allows more backcountry recreation options such as mountain biking and 4x4 trails, while still managing the land as primitive backcountry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, I certainly do object to excessive rules and regulations. Even when they work in my favor I still find them suspect. On the other hand, like any person with half a brain I see the need for civilization to have laws and rules&#8230;</p>
<p>As for areas we agree on where certain recreational activities are banned, yep, that&#8217;s controversial but it does get done. Like any democratic decision not everyone agrees on every nuance, but the areas exist. A good example is legal Wilderness. I like most of the legal Wilderness we have, though I happen to think we have enough and need a different land designation that allows more backcountry recreation options such as mountain biking and 4&#215;4 trails, while still managing the land as primitive backcountry.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding your comment that &quot;there are appropriate places for snowmobiles to make noise just as there are for folks with motor homes who want to run their generators.&#039;

The problem Lou is that nobody agrees on exactly where those places are or aren&#039;t.  Its one thing to say you know where they are and ask everybody to recognize the informal boundaries, but that&#039;s just one person&#039;s opinion.  In the ened, the only way to truly make this work is to do just what you object to, set rules and regulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your comment that &#8220;there are appropriate places for snowmobiles to make noise just as there are for folks with motor homes who want to run their generators.&#8217;</p>
<p>The problem Lou is that nobody agrees on exactly where those places are or aren&#8217;t.  Its one thing to say you know where they are and ask everybody to recognize the informal boundaries, but that&#8217;s just one person&#8217;s opinion.  In the ened, the only way to truly make this work is to do just what you object to, set rules and regulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S., it wasn&#039;t crowded at all. Gas prices or heat? I don&#039;t know, but it was really nice. Not off-season, but fine. Since I solo Jeep I don&#039;t mind seeing a few other folks on the trail who can help out in a pinch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S., it wasn&#8217;t crowded at all. Gas prices or heat? I don&#8217;t know, but it was really nice. Not off-season, but fine. Since I solo Jeep I don&#8217;t mind seeing a few other folks on the trail who can help out in a pinch.</p>
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