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	<title>Comments on: Arcteryx Atom LT Hoody &#8211; Review</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking of getting this hoody, but was wondering how good it would be as an outer layer over a fleece and a base layer for skiing? Whats everyones opinion on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking of getting this hoody, but was wondering how good it would be as an outer layer over a fleece and a base layer for skiing? Whats everyones opinion on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, thanks for helping out. Lou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, thanks for helping out. Lou</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 06:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa... Great response. Thanks for your insight and information; very helpfful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa&#8230; Great response. Thanks for your insight and information; very helpfful.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kathy
Short answer:
The Atom LT hoodie is around half as warm as the Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody. That&#039;s not a bad thing- they&#039;re different garments for different purposes. Get the Atom LT if you will be active, get the Down Sweater Hoody if not. 

Long answer:
Are you asking what the equivalent to 60g Coreloft is in a down fill value? If so, you&#039;re asking the wrong question- that&#039;s like comparing height and weight. Ounce for ounce, a high end synthetic is about as warm as 550 fill down. It&#039;s hard to use this to compare most synthetic jackets with down jackets- they tell you the weight of Coreloft in grams per square meter vs the total weight of down and the fill. There&#039;s no way to directly compare these two numbers- you&#039;d need to know the total weight of insulation in the Atom LT, or the weight of the down in grams per square meter given the loft thickness of the baffles in the Down Sweater.

Since Coreloft is a proprietary insulation with no technical data available, I&#039;m going to assume it&#039;s just as warm as PrimaLoft One at the same weight. It may be a rebranded PL1. If it isn&#039;t, it&#039;s likely not quite as warm as PL1, but close enough for comparison&#039;s sake. 

Patagonia Down Sweater = Iclo 2.14
Patagonia Nano Puff (60g PL1)= Iclo 1.51
Atom SV &amp; Patagonia Micro Puff (100g PL1) ~ Iclo 2.40

I&#039;m not sure how to factor in the Power Stretch panels on the Atom LT, which don&#039;t insulate as much- intentionally.  With the Power Stretch panels, I&#039;d guess that the Atom LT hoody is around half as warm as the Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody. This matches my experience with my Atom LT Hoody and down jackets similar to the Patagonia. 

All of that said, these are garments for different purposes. I don&#039;t ski, but I do hike, snowshoe and kicksled.  I love the Atom LT for cold weather exertion, ~20 deg F and below. Atom LT with a shell on top is almost as warm as something like the Patagonia Nano Puff with a shell. When I get going, drop the shell and allow the side panels to vent. If I was wearing the Nano Puff, I&#039;d be way too warm and would have to shed the Nano Puff entirely. 

If I wanted camp insulation or a daily jacket, I&#039;d get the Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody. Down will last a lot longer than the synthetic insulation, too. 

Hope that wasn&#039;t too long!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathy<br />
Short answer:<br />
The Atom LT hoodie is around half as warm as the Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody. That&#8217;s not a bad thing- they&#8217;re different garments for different purposes. Get the Atom LT if you will be active, get the Down Sweater Hoody if not. </p>
<p>Long answer:<br />
Are you asking what the equivalent to 60g Coreloft is in a down fill value? If so, you&#8217;re asking the wrong question- that&#8217;s like comparing height and weight. Ounce for ounce, a high end synthetic is about as warm as 550 fill down. It&#8217;s hard to use this to compare most synthetic jackets with down jackets- they tell you the weight of Coreloft in grams per square meter vs the total weight of down and the fill. There&#8217;s no way to directly compare these two numbers- you&#8217;d need to know the total weight of insulation in the Atom LT, or the weight of the down in grams per square meter given the loft thickness of the baffles in the Down Sweater.</p>
<p>Since Coreloft is a proprietary insulation with no technical data available, I&#8217;m going to assume it&#8217;s just as warm as PrimaLoft One at the same weight. It may be a rebranded PL1. If it isn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s likely not quite as warm as PL1, but close enough for comparison&#8217;s sake. </p>
<p>Patagonia Down Sweater = Iclo 2.14<br />
Patagonia Nano Puff (60g PL1)= Iclo 1.51<br />
Atom SV &amp; Patagonia Micro Puff (100g PL1) ~ Iclo 2.40</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how to factor in the Power Stretch panels on the Atom LT, which don&#8217;t insulate as much- intentionally.  With the Power Stretch panels, I&#8217;d guess that the Atom LT hoody is around half as warm as the Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody. This matches my experience with my Atom LT Hoody and down jackets similar to the Patagonia. </p>
<p>All of that said, these are garments for different purposes. I don&#8217;t ski, but I do hike, snowshoe and kicksled.  I love the Atom LT for cold weather exertion, ~20 deg F and below. Atom LT with a shell on top is almost as warm as something like the Patagonia Nano Puff with a shell. When I get going, drop the shell and allow the side panels to vent. If I was wearing the Nano Puff, I&#8217;d be way too warm and would have to shed the Nano Puff entirely. </p>
<p>If I wanted camp insulation or a daily jacket, I&#8217;d get the Patagonia Down Sweater Hoody. Down will last a lot longer than the synthetic insulation, too. </p>
<p>Hope that wasn&#8217;t too long!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know what the 60g of coreloft is comparable to in the down-fill category? I am debating between the Atom LT and the Patagonia Women&#039;s Down Sweater Full-Zip Hoody; of course the Pategonia 800-fill is warmer but I just wanted a general idea how the two compare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what the 60g of coreloft is comparable to in the down-fill category? I am debating between the Atom LT and the Patagonia Women&#8217;s Down Sweater Full-Zip Hoody; of course the Pategonia 800-fill is warmer but I just wanted a general idea how the two compare.</p>
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