Comments on: ISMF Bans After-Market Rando Race Heels

By: Jonathan Shefftz

Jonathan Shefftz — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:28:46 +0000

Ahh, so you swapped only the toe lever, and not the entire toe unit?
If so, interesting that those parts are interchangeable.

By: Simon

Simon — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:25:59 +0000

Hi, it’s done and it works great. I got a set of the vertical excenters and just changed the plastic lever for the smaller one on the TLT. Its so easy, just push out one pin re-fit the spring and straight back together. I can only think that the ski tech I spoke with thought that the longer lever would come into contact with the ski before the jaws were fully open, but this is not the case. Now there is something to get your hand onto and no doubt that the binding is locked into tour mode or not. No more lost skis on the kick turns I hope. It won’t make me any faster but I am sure feeling happier and more secure. As for the base plate at the front and the race heel, well this winter lots of shops in France have them as pairs called the speed race, don’t know if it a made up pairing but it saves €200 on the titanium toe piece and works fine.

thanks for the replies,

Simon

By: Jonathan Shefftz

Jonathan Shefftz — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:59:13 +0000

“I am keen to change the current excenter levers for the longer model fitted to the TLT vertical.”

- The Vertical ST lever is a bit easier to grab, so I suppose it would be a bit quicker for race transitions (if you don’t want to switch over to an autolocking competitor).
- I don’t see how the every so slightly different pincer clearance on the Vertical ST versus the older Speed/Classic/Comfort is going to make any difference with the F1. Plenty of people must have used the Vertical ST with the F3, and I’ve never heard of problems with that.
- Are you going to need to swap out Vertical ST’s plastic base plate for the Speed base plate you already have there , otherwise you’re going to end up with very flat or maybe even negative toe/heel delta. Actually, who knows, maybe you’d even like the way it skis, but the Vertical ST baseplate will add a few ounces, which is pretty counterproductive given that you have a race heel.
- I’m pretty sure this swap will work, since the Vertical ST baseplate is identical to the baseplate for the final years of the Comfort, and the Comfort toe unit is the same as the Speed/Classic.

By: roca

roca — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:33:12 +0000

with ATk and so you do not need to pull anithing automatic

By: Simon

Simon — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:09:18 +0000

Guys, I have a question thats kind of off topic but this seems a good a place as any. It is about modifications to Dynafit toe pieces. On my rando setup I have a TLT speed toe piece and a race heel. I am keen to change the current excenter levers for the longer model fitted to the TLT vertical. I have spoken to a ski tech here in France, and in a very broken English/French conversation, I think he was trying to point out that this combination may not work too well with a scarpa F1 and I believe the reason to be something to do with a slight adjustment in the distance between the pins once a change had been made.

The reason for changing is due to the fact that often, after race transitions, I have found that the lever has not been pulled far enough back and I then lose a ski on the first kick turn. This is partly due to my haste and partly to cold fingers in thin gloves or warm fingers but in larger gloves. I have taken a good look at the verticals and the operation of the excenter seems far more posotive and gives you a secure feeling that its fully back wear you need it to be first time.

So, does anyone have any experience or advice on this matter?

Many thanks in advance,

Simon