Comments on: Overnight in Livigno, Italy http://www.wildsnow.com/1659/livigno-italy-ski-tour-backcountry/ Backcountry Skiing Weblog Blog, FAQs, more, links and info about randonnee, telemark and backcountry ski mountaineering. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Nadia http://www.wildsnow.com/1659/livigno-italy-ski-tour-backcountry/comment-page-1/#comment-39015 Nadia Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:41:34 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1659#comment-39015 Im busy deciding if we should go to Austria- Saalback, Kitzbuhel, Zell am See or Seefeld, or head to the Italian side - Livigno. We are travelling over Christmas and New year and are on a limited budget. Looking for a nice romantic town with a good atmosphere. Any suggestions? Im busy deciding if we should go to Austria- Saalback, Kitzbuhel, Zell am See or Seefeld, or head to the Italian side – Livigno. We are travelling over Christmas and New year and are on a limited budget. Looking for a nice romantic town with a good atmosphere. Any suggestions?

]]> By: Nick http://www.wildsnow.com/1659/livigno-italy-ski-tour-backcountry/comment-page-1/#comment-13812 Nick Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:04:27 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1659#comment-13812 It is funny that I am just reading this idea of cost, since I have been thinking about this for the last few days. Maybe I had just not been paying attention to the increases in lift costs for the last few years (it is a rarity for me to go to the resort), but I was totally taken aback at what a lift ticket costs here in Utah. Several of the PC resorts are now in the $80+ range, and the cottonwood resorts are pushing $70+. This seems completely outrageous to me, and it is so upsetting that skiing has been turned into a rich mans/womans sport. Growing up in PC I usually had two or three season passes since as a student they ran about $100, and gear was reasonable (this may just be nostalgia). It is hard to believe that a family ski trip now costs as much as it does, and it would appear that for the same amount you could go and ski in Europe. This is compounded by the extreme costs of lodging locally as well as the outrageous cost of food, etc. I have not yet skied in europe (Haute route next spring!), but I am very interested on seeing how the infrastructure compares. In my opinion it may be that at least in part this is due to the american idea of fun- where skiing and the resort needs to be over-the-top glitzy. At least in PC the expansion of the resorts in the last few years is huge, and for the most part targeted to a wealthy audience. Just a few days ago took a resort day and had to pick my chin off the floor when I found that a hamburger (no drink, fries, etc) was $15...wtf? It is funny that I am just reading this idea of cost, since I have been thinking about this for the last few days. Maybe I had just not been paying attention to the increases in lift costs for the last few years (it is a rarity for me to go to the resort), but I was totally taken aback at what a lift ticket costs here in Utah. Several of the PC resorts are now in the $80+ range, and the cottonwood resorts are pushing $70+. This seems completely outrageous to me, and it is so upsetting that skiing has been turned into a rich mans/womans sport. Growing up in PC I usually had two or three season passes since as a student they ran about $100, and gear was reasonable (this may just be nostalgia). It is hard to believe that a family ski trip now costs as much as it does, and it would appear that for the same amount you could go and ski in Europe. This is compounded by the extreme costs of lodging locally as well as the outrageous cost of food, etc.

I have not yet skied in europe (Haute route next spring!), but I am very interested on seeing how the infrastructure compares. In my opinion it may be that at least in part this is due to the american idea of fun- where skiing and the resort needs to be over-the-top glitzy. At least in PC the expansion of the resorts in the last few years is huge, and for the most part targeted to a wealthy audience. Just a few days ago took a resort day and had to pick my chin off the floor when I found that a hamburger (no drink, fries, etc) was $15…wtf?

]]> By: Paul http://www.wildsnow.com/1659/livigno-italy-ski-tour-backcountry/comment-page-1/#comment-13773 Paul Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:04:32 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1659#comment-13773 This sounds, and looks like a rad trip! If you ever want to check out the conditions in Europe be sure to visit <a href="http://www.onthesnow.com" rel="nofollow">OnTheSnow</a>. This sounds, and looks like a rad trip! If you ever want to check out the conditions in Europe be sure to visit OnTheSnow.

]]> By: Randonnee http://www.wildsnow.com/1659/livigno-italy-ski-tour-backcountry/comment-page-1/#comment-13766 Randonnee Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:51:05 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1659#comment-13766 Sky, I am with you on the Euro ski experience. When I skied the Dolomites in 2002, the ticket was $33/ day for over 400 lifts in 12 valleys- sweet. Except for the hordes of people everywhere. But never more than 1K from a Cappucino...great food in nice places, lots of pistes. Fun. And then there is the lift-served extreme skiing at Chamonix...and the scale, amazing. In my locale, we ride my snowmobiles out to certain peaks for randonnee skiing and two out of three days do not see another snowmobile or any other skiers. And I am home for dinner with my family. Like Lou said... Sky, I am with you on the Euro ski experience. When I skied the Dolomites in 2002, the ticket was $33/ day for over 400 lifts in 12 valleys- sweet. Except for the hordes of people everywhere. But never more than 1K from a Cappucino…great food in nice places, lots of pistes. Fun. And then there is the lift-served extreme skiing at Chamonix…and the scale, amazing.

In my locale, we ride my snowmobiles out to certain peaks for randonnee skiing and two out of three days do not see another snowmobile or any other skiers. And I am home for dinner with my family. Like Lou said…

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1659/livigno-italy-ski-tour-backcountry/comment-page-1/#comment-13762 Lou Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:10:24 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1659#comment-13762 Sky, you're getting old! One word: snowmobile. Sky, you’re getting old! One word: snowmobile.

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