Comments on: Snow and Ice Driving http://www.wildsnow.com/164/snow-and-ice-driving/ Backcountry Skiing Weblog Blog, FAQs, more, links and info about randonnee, telemark and backcountry ski mountaineering. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:43:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Use Blog Title: Making it through all this snowy weather | Burbank House Keeping http://www.wildsnow.com/164/snow-and-ice-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-33473 Use Blog Title: Making it through all this snowy weather | Burbank House Keeping Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:36:23 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=164#comment-33473 [...] did pretty well with my snowy road driving as always though, even though I get so scared to do it. But I guess that all that fear works out [...] [...] did pretty well with my snowy road driving as always though, even though I get so scared to do it. But I guess that all that fear works out [...]

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/164/snow-and-ice-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-325 Lou Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:11:00 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=164#comment-325 Steve, that's amazing! Glad you're okay. The driver behind you must have really been on top of it, and you probably were as well, you were just in a situation that had no easy out is what it sounds like. Steve, that’s amazing! Glad you’re okay. The driver behind you must have really been on top of it, and you probably were as well, you were just in a situation that had no easy out is what it sounds like.

]]> By: Steve http://www.wildsnow.com/164/snow-and-ice-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Steve Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:21:18 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=164#comment-322 What a *REALLY* shocking coincidence. I haven't been able to shake this out of my mind since it occured. On Sunday night, I wrote the comment that in my drivers ed we'd learned about bailing at a red light from a car that isn't stopping. The next day, I got smashed up by exactly such a driver. I'm really not joking, but while I've long stopped paying as much attention as I probably should have to what is going on behind me at a light, I don't believe it would have saved me even if I had. The driver behind me saw the guy coming in hard and fast and at the last minute moved aside. Even if I'd been watching every few seconds, the odds of seeing the car behind me move aside and then recognize the other car coming in fast are so small. I was hit by a car at a high rate of speed from behind (the driver of the car said he was going 70km/h) and got thrown into the bumper of the army transport truck that was stopped in front of me at the light. I had to use my window punch to get out since my door jammed. I think I'll refrain from posting driving safety tips in the future. It's dangerous for my health. What a *REALLY* shocking coincidence. I haven’t been able to shake this out of my mind since it occured.

On Sunday night, I wrote the comment that in my drivers ed we’d learned about bailing at a red light from a car that isn’t stopping. The next day, I got smashed up by exactly such a driver.

I’m really not joking, but while I’ve long stopped paying as much attention as I probably should have to what is going on behind me at a light, I don’t believe it would have saved me even if I had.

The driver behind me saw the guy coming in hard and fast and at the last minute moved aside. Even if I’d been watching every few seconds, the odds of seeing the car behind me move aside and then recognize the other car coming in fast are so small.

I was hit by a car at a high rate of speed from behind (the driver of the car said he was going 70km/h) and got thrown into the bumper of the army transport truck that was stopped in front of me at the light. I had to use my window punch to get out since my door jammed.

I think I’ll refrain from posting driving safety tips in the future. It’s dangerous for my health.

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/164/snow-and-ice-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-307 Lou Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:27:38 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=164#comment-307 It is indeed an example of the power of advertising. The reality is that ABS is designed for the average driver, which happens to be a person who never learns how to really drive. Since lives depend on good driving, one would think there would be more emphasis in our culture on excellence in driving, but people tend to look at cars as an appliance that they just turn on and off. I'd imagine they can eventually make ABS that will threshold brake instead of stutter braking, when that happens I'd imagine it'll be fairly effective. Also, in my opinion ABS actually helps in one way with threshold braking, as you can really go to the limit, and if you do exceed the limit you still don't get wheel lockup but rather get the feedback of hearing the ABS engage. Interesting stuff, thanks for the comments! It is indeed an example of the power of advertising. The reality is that ABS is designed for the average driver, which happens to be a person who never learns how to really drive. Since lives depend on good driving, one would think there would be more emphasis in our culture on excellence in driving, but people tend to look at cars as an appliance that they just turn on and off. I’d imagine they can eventually make ABS that will threshold brake instead of stutter braking, when that happens I’d imagine it’ll be fairly effective. Also, in my opinion ABS actually helps in one way with threshold braking, as you can really go to the limit, and if you do exceed the limit you still don’t get wheel lockup but rather get the feedback of hearing the ABS engage. Interesting stuff, thanks for the comments!

]]> By: Steve http://www.wildsnow.com/164/snow-and-ice-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-306 Steve Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:02:11 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=164#comment-306 I don't believe I can turn off the ABS "enhancement" that my Toyota Highlander has. The propaganda that I have heard coming out of the automotive industry and the automotive press is that threshold braking makes ABS ineffective, and hence yields greater braking distances. I don't doubt that threshold braking can be more effective. I am just surprised by the thoroughness and effectiveness of the industry's propaganda. I don’t believe I can turn off the ABS “enhancement” that my Toyota Highlander has. The propaganda that I have heard coming out of the automotive industry and the automotive press is that threshold braking makes ABS ineffective, and hence yields greater braking distances.

I don’t doubt that threshold braking can be more effective. I am just surprised by the thoroughness and effectiveness of the industry’s propaganda.

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