Comments on: Gecko Climbing Skins Redux http://www.wildsnow.com/1617/gecko-skins-redux/ Backcountry Skiing Weblog Blog, FAQs, more, links and info about randonnee, telemark and backcountry ski mountaineering. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:43:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1617/gecko-skins-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-40051 Lou Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:52:14 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1617#comment-40051 Mark, my impression of what happened is they indeed released a beta product as retail. More, they seemed inexperienced with the skiing consumer industry. Don't know if you know, but I did make a special effort to drive to Innsbruck from my friend's home in Austria and visit them during the early stages of the things. They're nice, sincere guys, but again, I didn't get the impression they were professional ski product designers. Seems like they got schooled and we should give them another chance to some degree or another. I'll help as much as possible by being fairly hard-hitting in my next review. That way there won't be any mystery. Lou Mark, my impression of what happened is they indeed released a beta product as retail. More, they seemed inexperienced with the skiing consumer industry. Don’t know if you know, but I did make a special effort to drive to Innsbruck from my friend’s home in Austria and visit them during the early stages of the things. They’re nice, sincere guys, but again, I didn’t get the impression they were professional ski product designers.

Seems like they got schooled and we should give them another chance to some degree or another. I’ll help as much as possible by being fairly hard-hitting in my next review. That way there won’t be any mystery. Lou

]]> By: Mark http://www.wildsnow.com/1617/gecko-skins-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-40049 Mark Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:18:14 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1617#comment-40049 I'm with Omar and Davey on this one. Early market release of a sub-standard product and getting consumers to do the beta testing is unacceptable for a product of this sort. This was my experience of Gecko a couple of years ago. Problems with fraying, not sticking, skins rolling off blah blah blah......after only 2 days use. But for both the Austrian and US offices to ignore emails of complaint is also unacceptable - these guys need to focus on their consumers as much as their product. I'd love for these skins to work but I will never go near any of geckos products again. I’m with Omar and Davey on this one. Early market release of a sub-standard product and getting consumers to do the beta testing is unacceptable for a product of this sort. This was my experience of Gecko a couple of years ago. Problems with fraying, not sticking, skins rolling off blah blah blah……after only 2 days use.

But for both the Austrian and US offices to ignore emails of complaint is also unacceptable – these guys need to focus on their consumers as much as their product. I’d love for these skins to work but I will never go near any of geckos products again.

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1617/gecko-skins-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-40047 Lou Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:50:30 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1617#comment-40047 My version has a beefy wire tip loop, with the tail left uncut to use with enclosed system that's similar to G3, and you rig yourself depending on ski length. It all looks fine. But I'll test over the next month or so. Will file an initial review very soon. If you read my previous post, it has my total impression of the glue, developed over more than 30 days of use. I don't see how that'll change, it's the same stuff. My version has a beefy wire tip loop, with the tail left uncut to use with enclosed system that’s similar to G3, and you rig yourself depending on ski length. It all looks fine. But I’ll test over the next month or so. Will file an initial review very soon. If you read my previous post, it has my total impression of the glue, developed over more than 30 days of use. I don’t see how that’ll change, it’s the same stuff.

]]> By: David Conlin http://www.wildsnow.com/1617/gecko-skins-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-40046 David Conlin Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:03:13 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1617#comment-40046 What is the tip/tail attachment system like on the latest iteration? What is the tip/tail attachment system like on the latest iteration?

]]> By: Omar http://www.wildsnow.com/1617/gecko-skins-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-38720 Omar Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:37:47 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1617#comment-38720 I bought Gecho skins last winter (2010 in Argentina), and I'm absolutely happy... with my new Black Diamond skins which I used in 2011. Gecko failed repeatedly, while other times they worked fine. Tip and tail attachments got broken BOTH. That is not nice when you are several km. away of the nearest town in Patagonia. Bottom line: Do not inspire trust. Nontheless, I keep looking forward for the improvement of the product. I bought Gecho skins last winter (2010 in Argentina), and I’m absolutely happy… with my new Black Diamond skins which I used in 2011.

Gecko failed repeatedly, while other times they worked fine. Tip and tail attachments got broken BOTH. That is not nice when you are several km. away of the nearest town in Patagonia.
Bottom line: Do not inspire trust. Nontheless, I keep looking forward for the improvement of the product.

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