Comments on: 08/09 Dynafit ZZero 4 CTF Unboxed http://www.wildsnow.com/1540/dynafit-zzero-ctf-08-09/ Backcountry Skiing Snowboard Telemark Snowsports Information News Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:54:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Colin http://www.wildsnow.com/1540/dynafit-zzero-ctf-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-15003 Colin Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:07:02 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1540#comment-15003 Lou, Two questions: 1. How does Dynafit break their shell sizes? Is a 27.0 and a 27.5 the same shell? 2. How do these guys fit compared to BD boots? I'm switching from tele to AT (due to a lower leg injury involving Hammerheads that didn't release) and fit BD's Push very well. I'm pretty sure the Factor/Method has a very similar last as the Custom/Push. I'm a 27.5 in the Push and thinking about pulling the trigger on some (very) cheap 27.0 Zzero 4s. But I can't exactly try them on before I buy them. At the price, I shouldn't have any trouble getting rid of them if they don't fit, but I'd rather save myself the trouble. Thanks! Lou,

Two questions:

1. How does Dynafit break their shell sizes? Is a 27.0 and a 27.5 the same shell?

2. How do these guys fit compared to BD boots?

I’m switching from tele to AT (due to a lower leg injury involving Hammerheads that didn’t release) and fit BD’s Push very well. I’m pretty sure the Factor/Method has a very similar last as the Custom/Push. I’m a 27.5 in the Push and thinking about pulling the trigger on some (very) cheap 27.0 Zzero 4s. But I can’t exactly try them on before I buy them. At the price, I shouldn’t have any trouble getting rid of them if they don’t fit, but I’d rather save myself the trouble.

Thanks!

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1540/dynafit-zzero-ctf-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-13112 Lou Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:48:13 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1540#comment-13112 Marc, I generally try to upgrade boots every year no matter what, just so I can test something new. Also, my ZZero were pretty beat up cosmetically and sometimes I like to get a bit beyond the dirt bag look. In the case of my ZZeros, the Dynafit fittings were all fine, though I did re-install the rear fittings with some epoxy just to be safe. A known issue with the boots is that the lean locks have some play when new and develop more as they wear. Mine had the initial play and a bit more after all the use, but nothing I thought was excessive so I didn't report it though I perhaps should have at least mentioned it. The main thing was that my lean locks didn't fail, though that's been reported by others. As of the start of this winter the cuff pivots had developed a bit of play, but again not much and no more than any other boot would have given that much mileage. Again regarding the ZZero lean locks, in comparison to boots such as Garmont they could be beefier, but then they'd weigh more, so I don't know what's appropriate. The new boots appear to have the same lean lock, though one of my Dynafit sources says it's been improved so there will be fewer warranty swaps for ones that quit working. http://www.wildsnow.com/1046/50000-mile-report-dynafit-zzero-cf-long-term-testing/ Marc, I generally try to upgrade boots every year no matter what, just so I can test something new. Also, my ZZero were pretty beat up cosmetically and sometimes I like to get a bit beyond the dirt bag look. In the case of my ZZeros, the Dynafit fittings were all fine, though I did re-install the rear fittings with some epoxy just to be safe. A known issue with the boots is that the lean locks have some play when new and develop more as they wear. Mine had the initial play and a bit more after all the use, but nothing I thought was excessive so I didn’t report it though I perhaps should have at least mentioned it. The main thing was that my lean locks didn’t fail, though that’s been reported by others. As of the start of this winter the cuff pivots had developed a bit of play, but again not much and no more than any other boot would have given that much mileage.

Again regarding the ZZero lean locks, in comparison to boots such as Garmont they could be beefier, but then they’d weigh more, so I don’t know what’s appropriate. The new boots appear to have the same lean lock, though one of my Dynafit sources says it’s been improved so there will be fewer warranty swaps for ones that quit working.

http://www.wildsnow.com/1046/50000-mile-report-dynafit-zzero-cf-long-term-testing/

]]> By: Marc http://www.wildsnow.com/1540/dynafit-zzero-ctf-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-13108 Marc Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:29:45 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1540#comment-13108 Lou- I know it's an older blog, but I have a couple questions... 1) If you're green machines held up so well from the use and abuse from last year, then why the new (08/09) model? 2) I thought I read somewhere on here about play in the heal fitting / dual prongs of your C4s, but I could not find it. I've noticed a fair amount of play in my C4 / Vertical STs and it bugs me to death! I like a tight setup, not slop. I didn't seem to notice this last year with the same setup. Are the fittings wearing out? The technical info on here is awesome Lou! Such a great resource. Thanks!!! -Marc. Lou-

I know it’s an older blog, but I have a couple questions… 1) If you’re green machines held up so well from the use and abuse from last year, then why the new (08/09) model? 2) I thought I read somewhere on here about play in the heal fitting / dual prongs of your C4s, but I could not find it. I’ve noticed a fair amount of play in my C4 / Vertical STs and it bugs me to death! I like a tight setup, not slop. I didn’t seem to notice this last year with the same setup. Are the fittings wearing out?

The technical info on here is awesome Lou! Such a great resource.
Thanks!!!
-Marc.

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1540/dynafit-zzero-ctf-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-13053 Lou Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:47:24 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1540#comment-13053 Chris, that's exactly what I do because I've got a bony skinny physique. I go for the smaller shell size and punch the toes out. That way I get a terrific fit. But I don't punch it out a full size, only perhaps 4 mm. They're colder than my "2 finger" shell size but tour and ski much better for me. That said, I could make the next size shell work, but it would take me quite a bit of fitting and messing around with liner molding. Oh, and in the end, a shorter shell is a joy when in touring mode or walking the dirt trail. Less in front of your toes. And they weigh less too. Chris, that’s exactly what I do because I’ve got a bony skinny physique. I go for the smaller shell size and punch the toes out. That way I get a terrific fit. But I don’t punch it out a full size, only perhaps 4 mm. They’re colder than my “2 finger” shell size but tour and ski much better for me. That said, I could make the next size shell work, but it would take me quite a bit of fitting and messing around with liner molding.

Oh, and in the end, a shorter shell is a joy when in touring mode or walking the dirt trail. Less in front of your toes. And they weigh less too.

]]> By: Chris http://www.wildsnow.com/1540/dynafit-zzero-ctf-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-13051 Chris Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:23:12 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1540#comment-13051 maybe thats what the problem was. I have basically a size 27 geometry foot in the heel/back foot/ankle but thanks to the toes a size 29 boot. So I normally buy a 27/28 and get it punched out a full size. He was a bit hesitant to punch it out that much because of something to do with the heating of the boot. I'm still keen to buy a Zzero though...right now I'm scheduled to take my Zzeus's on the haute route with a slightly dodgy knee and the conditioning of a man spending far too much time in the office.... maybe thats what the problem was. I have basically a size 27 geometry foot in the heel/back foot/ankle but thanks to the toes a size 29 boot. So I normally buy a 27/28 and get it punched out a full size. He was a bit hesitant to punch it out that much because of something to do with the heating of the boot.

I’m still keen to buy a Zzero though…right now I’m scheduled to take my Zzeus’s on the haute route with a slightly dodgy knee and the conditioning of a man spending far too much time in the office….

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1540/dynafit-zzero-ctf-08-09/comment-page-1/#comment-13041 Lou Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:33:48 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1540#comment-13041 Hi Chris, I've been able to easily punch them out a few millimeters, but no way you can argue a craftsman into doing something they're not comfortable with. As for sizing, in my case I've found that downsizing the ZZero shell gives me a better fit, but every foot is different. For some people, upsizing could be the ticket, or staying with the charted size (what a concept). In terms of how the shells in relate, I don't have a stock of every size so I can't tell you how 29 and 28 compare. You might be able to get an idea from the Dynafit sizing chart, which is at the bottom of the following page: http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/boot-measure/backcountry-skiing-at-boots.html Hi Chris, I’ve been able to easily punch them out a few millimeters, but no way you can argue a craftsman into doing something they’re not comfortable with. As for sizing, in my case I’ve found that downsizing the ZZero shell gives me a better fit, but every foot is different. For some people, upsizing could be the ticket, or staying with the charted size (what a concept). In terms of how the shells in relate, I don’t have a stock of every size so I can’t tell you how 29 and 28 compare. You might be able to get an idea from the Dynafit sizing chart, which is at the bottom of the following page:

http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/boot-measure/backcountry-skiing-at-boots.html

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