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	<title>Comments on: The Wrong Side of Safety &#8212; An Avalanche Story</title>
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		<title>By: Randonnee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randonnee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey North.Bend,

That occurred in 1996 when I was young, confident and arrogant. Now I am older and more scared... : )}

Yeah, there is one slope that I wonder if it will get me...perhaps more Rutschblock Tests this year, but you see, I just hate to break up that line,...I do try to get get around the increased  hazard through familiarity by doing intensive avalanche hazard mitigation by throwing my body and skis at it repeatedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey North.Bend,</p>
<p>That occurred in 1996 when I was young, confident and arrogant. Now I am older and more scared&#8230; : )}</p>
<p>Yeah, there is one slope that I wonder if it will get me&#8230;perhaps more Rutschblock Tests this year, but you see, I just hate to break up that line,&#8230;I do try to get get around the increased  hazard through familiarity by doing intensive avalanche hazard mitigation by throwing my body and skis at it repeatedly.</p>
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		<title>By: North.Bend</title>
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		<dc:creator>North.Bend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

Glad to hear you survived. You are much like a cat with 9 lives tht has 1.5 left.

I would not be surprised to hear that the reason that the cornice dropped was due to it&#039;s liberal agenda, which is not being published in the MSM.

BTW, nice job on keeping Blewett Pass clean.

-Your friends in North Bend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>Glad to hear you survived. You are much like a cat with 9 lives tht has 1.5 left.</p>
<p>I would not be surprised to hear that the reason that the cornice dropped was due to it&#8217;s liberal agenda, which is not being published in the MSM.</p>
<p>BTW, nice job on keeping Blewett Pass clean.</p>
<p>-Your friends in North Bend</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we are talking about avis, I thought I would share this.  Just finished John Muir&#039;s first diary of visiting the Eastern Sierras (&quot;My First Summer in the Sierra&quot; - first published in 1911) .  Perhaps Mr. Muir was the first documented avalanche forecaster?  He hits the destructive nature of slides, as well as some of the forecasting factors (slide history, inclination, snowfall, etc...).

Here is the revelant passage (begining on pg. 290):

&quot;On the slopes of Mammoth Mountain, to the south of the pass, I aw many gaps in wood reaching from the upper edge of the timber-line down to the level meadows, where avalanches of snow had descended, sweeping away every tree in their paths as well as the soil they were growing in, leaving the bed-rock bare.  The trees are nearly all uprooted, but a few that had been extremely well anchored in clefts of rick were broken off near the ground.  It seems strange at first sight that trees that had been allowed to grow for a century or more undisturbed should in their old age be thus swished away by stroke.  Such avalanches can only occur under rare conditions of weather and snowfall.  No doubt on some positions of the mountain slopes the inclination and smoothness of the surface is such that avalanches must occur every winter, or even after every heavy snow-storm, and of course no trees or even bushes can grow in their channels.  I noticed a few clean-swept slopes of this kind.  The up-rooted trees that had grown in the pathway of what might be called &#039;century avalanches&#039; were pile in windrows, and tucked snugly against the wall-trees of the gaps, heads down-ward, excepting a few that were carried out into the open ground of the meadows, where the heads of the avalanches had stopped.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we are talking about avis, I thought I would share this.  Just finished John Muir&#8217;s first diary of visiting the Eastern Sierras (&#8221;My First Summer in the Sierra&#8221; &#8211; first published in 1911) .  Perhaps Mr. Muir was the first documented avalanche forecaster?  He hits the destructive nature of slides, as well as some of the forecasting factors (slide history, inclination, snowfall, etc&#8230;).</p>
<p>Here is the revelant passage (begining on pg. 290):</p>
<p>&#8220;On the slopes of Mammoth Mountain, to the south of the pass, I aw many gaps in wood reaching from the upper edge of the timber-line down to the level meadows, where avalanches of snow had descended, sweeping away every tree in their paths as well as the soil they were growing in, leaving the bed-rock bare.  The trees are nearly all uprooted, but a few that had been extremely well anchored in clefts of rick were broken off near the ground.  It seems strange at first sight that trees that had been allowed to grow for a century or more undisturbed should in their old age be thus swished away by stroke.  Such avalanches can only occur under rare conditions of weather and snowfall.  No doubt on some positions of the mountain slopes the inclination and smoothness of the surface is such that avalanches must occur every winter, or even after every heavy snow-storm, and of course no trees or even bushes can grow in their channels.  I noticed a few clean-swept slopes of this kind.  The up-rooted trees that had grown in the pathway of what might be called &#8216;century avalanches&#8217; were pile in windrows, and tucked snugly against the wall-trees of the gaps, heads down-ward, excepting a few that were carried out into the open ground of the meadows, where the heads of the avalanches had stopped.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AK, all the research about human factors points to familiarity possibly causing a lack of caution, and stats show avalanche safety &quot;experts&quot; are involved in avalanches far more than one would assume they should be. Hence these are red flags. Super important to remember this, and try to compensate. For example, when I&#039;m in a familiar area I try to examine what I&#039;m doing and if in doubt ratchet back my risk level if anything even faintly points to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AK, all the research about human factors points to familiarity possibly causing a lack of caution, and stats show avalanche safety &#8220;experts&#8221; are involved in avalanches far more than one would assume they should be. Hence these are red flags. Super important to remember this, and try to compensate. For example, when I&#8217;m in a familiar area I try to examine what I&#8217;m doing and if in doubt ratchet back my risk level if anything even faintly points to that.</p>
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		<title>By: AK Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t quite understand your &quot;red flag&quot; definition.  Familiarity with the area and expertise are red flags?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand your &#8220;red flag&#8221; definition.  Familiarity with the area and expertise are red flags?</p>
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