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	<title>Comments on: Backcountry Skiing News Roundup &#8212; 8,000 Meters and Hunter Orange</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.wildsnow.com/1177/backcountry-skiing-news-roundup-8000-meters-and-hunter-orange/comment-page-1/#comment-10621</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008107764_webhikershot12m.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Update&lt;/a&gt; on the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008107764_webhikershot12m.html" rel="nofollow">Update</a> on the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.wildsnow.com/1177/backcountry-skiing-news-roundup-8000-meters-and-hunter-orange/comment-page-1/#comment-10609</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lou,
About the hunter situation, I too am from Seattle, and I go backpacking/climbing/skiing almost every weekend throughout the year. I do not know the hunting seasons, they are not posted, I am not a hunter, and till now have believed that hunters do their thing far away from where i am (on trails often with other people). it&#039;s tragic and i can&#039;t help but think how this 14 year old kid feels as well as the family of the hiker, but come on, this CAN be avoided, with a mature and responsible shot, aiming far away from trails, roads, and climbing routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou,<br />
About the hunter situation, I too am from Seattle, and I go backpacking/climbing/skiing almost every weekend throughout the year. I do not know the hunting seasons, they are not posted, I am not a hunter, and till now have believed that hunters do their thing far away from where i am (on trails often with other people). it&#8217;s tragic and i can&#8217;t help but think how this 14 year old kid feels as well as the family of the hiker, but come on, this CAN be avoided, with a mature and responsible shot, aiming far away from trails, roads, and climbing routes.</p>
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		<title>By: Randonnee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randonnee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunate and tragic, of course. Another point that I would like to emphasize is that it is unlawful to fire a weapon across a road or trail. I would hope that hunters will take this responsibility very seriously, aside from being certain of the target and the background. I hunt, and also ski, bike and hike, and often while off-trail. I always try to be vigilant and think ahead of the hunters out there- if I get shot, fault-finding will not change anything. 

It is interesting to see some self-righteous responses in various forums from some hikers and etc. That hunter, when following the Law, has an equal right to be on that Public land as any other recreationist. Good judgement and following the Law must apply to all. For example, when a backcountry skier once cut in above me when I was using caution, skiing one-at-a-time for avalanche hazard, my rescue dog being held up top, that skier endangered my life, but fortunately there was no deadly result. On popular climbs groups often endanger others by setting off rockfall or even avalanches. I often see unskilled and ignorant drivers on mountain roads creating hazard for others. Horse riders have asked me to go another direction so as not to spook their horse, and I am expected to take my mountain bike off trail for the horse rider&#039;s safety; this is something that I may not enjoy, but I do it for the safety of the horse riders, who equally have the right to use the Public Land. 

The point is, we all should abide by the Law, and we should consider others and the effects of our actions on others. The idea that one is morally superior because one is a hiker or whatever, compared to a hunter or other type of legitimate recreationist is elitist and specious thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunate and tragic, of course. Another point that I would like to emphasize is that it is unlawful to fire a weapon across a road or trail. I would hope that hunters will take this responsibility very seriously, aside from being certain of the target and the background. I hunt, and also ski, bike and hike, and often while off-trail. I always try to be vigilant and think ahead of the hunters out there- if I get shot, fault-finding will not change anything. </p>
<p>It is interesting to see some self-righteous responses in various forums from some hikers and etc. That hunter, when following the Law, has an equal right to be on that Public land as any other recreationist. Good judgement and following the Law must apply to all. For example, when a backcountry skier once cut in above me when I was using caution, skiing one-at-a-time for avalanche hazard, my rescue dog being held up top, that skier endangered my life, but fortunately there was no deadly result. On popular climbs groups often endanger others by setting off rockfall or even avalanches. I often see unskilled and ignorant drivers on mountain roads creating hazard for others. Horse riders have asked me to go another direction so as not to spook their horse, and I am expected to take my mountain bike off trail for the horse rider&#8217;s safety; this is something that I may not enjoy, but I do it for the safety of the horse riders, who equally have the right to use the Public Land. </p>
<p>The point is, we all should abide by the Law, and we should consider others and the effects of our actions on others. The idea that one is morally superior because one is a hiker or whatever, compared to a hunter or other type of legitimate recreationist is elitist and specious thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.wildsnow.com/1177/backcountry-skiing-news-roundup-8000-meters-and-hunter-orange/comment-page-1/#comment-10578</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, I&#039;d agree. But can&#039;t the mind can play tricks and a person can be &quot;certain&quot; about something that&#039;s not what they think it is? Thus, my point about wearing the orange if you&#039;re sharing land with hunters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, I&#8217;d agree. But can&#8217;t the mind can play tricks and a person can be &#8220;certain&#8221; about something that&#8217;s not what they think it is? Thus, my point about wearing the orange if you&#8217;re sharing land with hunters.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.wildsnow.com/1177/backcountry-skiing-news-roundup-8000-meters-and-hunter-orange/comment-page-1/#comment-10577</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  hunting accident
There&#039;s simply no excuse for firing a rifle at a target when the shooter isn&#039;t certain what the target is.  It&#039;s that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  hunting accident<br />
There&#8217;s simply no excuse for firing a rifle at a target when the shooter isn&#8217;t certain what the target is.  It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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