Comments on: Donning the Vestments from Climbing Skins Direct http://www.wildsnow.com/1066/donning-the-vestments-from-climbing-skins-direct/ Backcountry Skiing Weblog Blog, FAQs, more, links and info about randonnee, telemark and backcountry ski mountaineering. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:09:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1066/donning-the-vestments-from-climbing-skins-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-9179 Lou Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:24:11 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1066#comment-9179 Derik, I just compared Spirit 3 to some other boots. It's not that the toe rubber is any thinner, it's that the toe is cut back at an angle due to clearance issue from the Dynafit sockets being farther back. This seems to make wear of the rubber have more immediate consequence. Solution is to probably make the rubber a few mil thicker in that area, meanwhile, we like the stride improvement due to the position of the sockets, and feel any tradeoff is well worth it. Derik, I just compared Spirit 3 to some other boots. It’s not that the toe rubber is any thinner, it’s that the toe is cut back at an angle due to clearance issue from the Dynafit sockets being farther back. This seems to make wear of the rubber have more immediate consequence. Solution is to probably make the rubber a few mil thicker in that area, meanwhile, we like the stride improvement due to the position of the sockets, and feel any tradeoff is well worth it.

]]> By: Derik http://www.wildsnow.com/1066/donning-the-vestments-from-climbing-skins-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-9178 Derik Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:29:40 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1066#comment-9178 Normal wear and tear, yes ......... but the Spirit 3 sole area under the toe is particularly thin. It will wear with very little walking and scrambling. My thought is that the sole was designed thin there as a weight savings measure. Unfortunately, that impedes their longevity. Just take a look at the F3 sole, its much thicker in the toe area and already wears better. I wonder does the Spirit 4 also have the wear problem? Normal wear and tear, yes ……… but the Spirit 3 sole area under the toe is particularly thin. It will wear with very little walking and scrambling. My thought is that the sole was designed thin there as a weight savings measure. Unfortunately, that impedes their longevity. Just take a look at the F3 sole, its much thicker in the toe area and already wears better.

I wonder does the Spirit 4 also have the wear problem?

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1066/donning-the-vestments-from-climbing-skins-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-9176 Lou Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:15:17 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1066#comment-9176 Plinko, I didn't mean to imply that the Scarpas failed in any way that would be unusual or covered by warranty. They're just as durable as any other boot, but after several years and hundreds of days of hard use, a few simple things were going on. Mostly, the rubber was worn out on the toe from climbing on foot with no skis, so they were getting tricky or even dangerous for scrambling. The cuff pivots were a bit worn as well, and the inside of the liners had been repaired with duct tape after wearing through. Nothing unusual for any randonnee boot. In fact, the Spirit 3 seemed to wear very well as it was put through some pretty brutal use. Plinko, I didn’t mean to imply that the Scarpas failed in any way that would be unusual or covered by warranty. They’re just as durable as any other boot, but after several years and hundreds of days of hard use, a few simple things were going on. Mostly, the rubber was worn out on the toe from climbing on foot with no skis, so they were getting tricky or even dangerous for scrambling. The cuff pivots were a bit worn as well, and the inside of the liners had been repaired with duct tape after wearing through. Nothing unusual for any randonnee boot. In fact, the Spirit 3 seemed to wear very well as it was put through some pretty brutal use.

]]> By: Plinko http://www.wildsnow.com/1066/donning-the-vestments-from-climbing-skins-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-9172 Plinko Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:56:39 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1066#comment-9172 Hi Lou, You said Louie "wore out" his Spirit 3's, could you elaborate? Where/how did they fail? How was Scarpa about replacements? Best wishes, Ben Hi Lou,

You said Louie “wore out” his Spirit 3′s, could you elaborate? Where/how did they fail? How was Scarpa about replacements?

Best wishes,

Ben

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1066/donning-the-vestments-from-climbing-skins-direct/comment-page-1/#comment-9163 Lou Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:55:14 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1066#comment-9163 Thanks AJ and all! We're sitting at gate A43 at the moment, Lufthansa to Munich flying soon! Thanks AJ and all! We’re sitting at gate A43 at the moment, Lufthansa to Munich flying soon!

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