Comments on: New Dynafit ZZero 4-Buckle Women’s Boots — Nice! http://www.wildsnow.com/1007/dynafit-zzero-womens-boots/ Backcountry Skiing Weblog Blog, FAQs, more, links and info about randonnee, telemark and backcountry ski mountaineering. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:25:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jen http://www.wildsnow.com/1007/dynafit-zzero-womens-boots/comment-page-1/#comment-34469 Jen Sat, 26 Mar 2011 05:57:16 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1007#comment-34469 I have a dynafit and a fritschi free ride set up. I also have a 4 buckle boots as well as a 3 buckle. I usually end up grabbing the dynafit and tour determines the boot. I have found the fritschi has some of lateral movement when skiing, they do not tour as well, and feel heavy under foot. They are however easy to adjust between boots and they are easy to get in and out of. I have used my alpine boots in them before. All of this has been pointed out so far. Everyone I tour with started out on fritschi and now skis dynafit and they swear they will never go back. I do agree the breaks suck and that’s why I took them off. They are not hard to get in to unless the rubber your sole is worn down and then they can be a pain. I have never had the “icing up” problem and I used them over 70 days this year. If I were new the ski touring I would by a boot that fits well and is dynafit compatible, then find a ski that will work for me, and finally chose a binding. Going cheep will be hard to do and you may just end up getting a set-up that just doesn’t work for you. Finally, don’t buy used boots unless you plan to buy a new liner for $100-$250. Don’t forget the cost of skins, crampons, transceiver, shovel and probe. I wouldn’t go out with someone who couldn’t dig me out. I have a dynafit and a fritschi free ride set up. I also have a 4 buckle boots as well as a 3 buckle. I usually end up grabbing the dynafit and tour determines the boot. I have found the fritschi has some of lateral movement when skiing, they do not tour as well, and feel heavy under foot. They are however easy to adjust between boots and they are easy to get in and out of. I have used my alpine boots in them before. All of this has been pointed out so far. Everyone I tour with started out on fritschi and now skis dynafit and they swear they will never go back. I do agree the breaks suck and that’s why I took them off. They are not hard to get in to unless the rubber your sole is worn down and then they can be a pain. I have never had the “icing up” problem and I used them over 70 days this year. If I were new the ski touring I would by a boot that fits well and is dynafit compatible, then find a ski that will work for me, and finally chose a binding. Going cheep will be hard to do and you may just end up getting a set-up that just doesn’t work for you. Finally, don’t buy used boots unless you plan to buy a new liner for $100-$250. Don’t forget the cost of skins, crampons, transceiver, shovel and probe. I wouldn’t go out with someone who couldn’t dig me out.

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1007/dynafit-zzero-womens-boots/comment-page-1/#comment-31206 Lou Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:31:54 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1007#comment-31206 No reason to get too radical. Just try remolding the liners, if they work, great, if not, get another set. No reason to get too radical. Just try remolding the liners, if they work, great, if not, get another set.

]]> By: J Dexter http://www.wildsnow.com/1007/dynafit-zzero-womens-boots/comment-page-1/#comment-31205 J Dexter Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:15:24 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1007#comment-31205 Thanks for the quick reply. I believe the foam is taped and not glued to the liner, but now I wonder if I'd be better off starting with an entirely new liner to get a longer life from it? Thanks for the quick reply. I believe the foam is taped and not glued to the liner, but now I wonder if I’d be better off starting with an entirely new liner to get a longer life from it?

]]> By: Lou http://www.wildsnow.com/1007/dynafit-zzero-womens-boots/comment-page-1/#comment-31199 Lou Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:34:05 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1007#comment-31199 It sounds like you might need another boot fitter. Liners can be re-molded, though they can loose a bit of thickness each time, especially if a bunch of major re-molds are done at higher temperatures. In the case of just one area needing less volume, my approach is to always heat gun the liner and puff it out a bit, before doing a re-mold. This can work especially well in the case of a liner that's been compressed too much by double toe caps or other padding to compensate for bone spurs and such. Gluing foam to a heat mold liner is a last resort. Firstly, because with backcountry boots the foam tends to peel off when you're in tour mode. Secondly, because you can't heat mold the liner again once it has foam stuck all over it. It sounds like you might need another boot fitter. Liners can be re-molded, though they can loose a bit of thickness each time, especially if a bunch of major re-molds are done at higher temperatures. In the case of just one area needing less volume, my approach is to always heat gun the liner and puff it out a bit, before doing a re-mold. This can work especially well in the case of a liner that’s been compressed too much by double toe caps or other padding to compensate for bone spurs and such.

Gluing foam to a heat mold liner is a last resort. Firstly, because with backcountry boots the foam tends to peel off when you’re in tour mode. Secondly, because you can’t heat mold the liner again once it has foam stuck all over it.

]]> By: J Dexter http://www.wildsnow.com/1007/dynafit-zzero-womens-boots/comment-page-1/#comment-31198 J Dexter Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:25:18 +0000 http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1007#comment-31198 Hi Lou. I have a question about the Dynafit ZZero boots. These were the best fitting of all the (women's) boots I tried and the fit was very snug with my custom foot beds before molding. I had the boots molded (before skiing) at the shop where I bought them and the boot fitter used double toe caps despite my suggestion that would create too much space. First time out they were definitely too roomy in the toe box so I went back for an adjustment. I've heard (and read on other pages on this blog) that Dynafit liners can be remolded, but the boot fitter claims they can't, so he is adding foam pads to the outside of the linings to take up some of the volume. I figured I'd give this a try and then take them elsewhere if it doesn't work. Still, I am mystified by this solution and somewhat concerned that the linings might be damaged in the process. Do you have any advice? Thanks! Hi Lou. I have a question about the Dynafit ZZero boots. These were the best fitting of all the (women’s) boots I tried and the fit was very snug with my custom foot beds before molding. I had the boots molded (before skiing) at the shop where I bought them and the boot fitter used double toe caps despite my suggestion that would create too much space. First time out they were definitely too roomy in the toe box so I went back for an adjustment. I’ve heard (and read on other pages on this blog) that Dynafit liners can be remolded, but the boot fitter claims they can’t, so he is adding foam pads to the outside of the linings to take up some of the volume. I figured I’d give this a try and then take them elsewhere if it doesn’t work. Still, I am mystified by this solution and somewhat concerned that the linings might be damaged in the process. Do you have any advice? Thanks!

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